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It's Time To Admit It: The X.Org Server Is Abandonware

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  • Summary. X is dead. Wayland stuff works fine on GNOME. Tons of complaints from people using alternative compositors.

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    • Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post
      Why do I even bother to dual boot Linux when Windows gives such a superior experience for my needs? (and this is a sad note)
      Why do you? Use what works best. I find Windows to be absolutely horrid compared to Linux, but my needs and preferences are different from yours.

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      • Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
        Because it's pretty much complete and stable.
        in biology stable means dead

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        • Originally posted by user1 View Post
          Besides the fact that Wayland is still not feature complete
          let's not forget the fact that x11 is not feature complete(wayland is an attempt to (feature)improve x11)

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          • Originally posted by Neraxa View Post
            Many cards won't work on Wayland. You seem to need a recent $2000 computer with the latest graphics adapter that cant be over 2 years old. This is a gross misunderstanding of who Linux users are, who often use Linux to breath life into older computers which still function perfectly.
            Integrated Intel graphics from the Ivy Bridge or Broadwell era works perfectly with Gnome, and so does my several year old AMD graphics card. What are you using that doesn't work?

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            • Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              A new release is needed for OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, DragonFly BSD, and TrueOS. Maybe other operating systems that use X.Org Server and don't have Wayland.
              looks like they also don't have developers

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              • Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
                If you run the right hardware
                you can run any hardware supported on linux. novideo shit isn't. and if you use some alternative broken desktop then you can't accuse wayland of its issues

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                • Wayland should be a library as well so efforts could not be wasted anymore in countless implementations from scratch...

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                  • Originally posted by rmfx View Post
                    Wayland should be a library as well so efforts could not be wasted anymore in countless implementations from scratch...
                    I mean, that's kind of what wlroots and weston are.

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                    • Originally posted by timofonic View Post

                      And that's the real reason we're all doomed. GNOME is a trap in it's current form, until competition becomes a lot stronger and forces everyone to move forward.

                      Small projects are cool and innovative, but they're weak.

                      KDE is a cool experiment, but needs stronger support and better stabilization.

                      The rest are nice, but maybe too specialized for mainstream.
                      KDE is hardly an experiment. It's been around longer than GNOME.
                      Last edited by Mark Rose; 25 October 2020, 10:12 PM.

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