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  • #41
    Gentoo pulled this release due to some bugs stopping some systems from booting. Last I saw upstream is still investigating it.

    Here's the bug tracking it https://bugs.gentoo.org/739056
    Last edited by aphysically; 27 August 2020, 01:34 AM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by muncrief View Post
      But the simple fact is that Wayland is still plagued by numerous problems, many having been well documented and discussed in this thread. However whenever Wayland comes up I notice there are always groups of people claiming it's ready for everyone, and from all the bug reports and stories of people trying it and surrendering, that just doesn't ring true.
      It's almost funny indeed.

      Many people are stating it's ready, then at the end of their praise, they add something like:
      - Only a couple of challenges
      - The only problems I've ran into are
      - Just a few issues left
      - If that issue could now be solved, it would really be perfect.

      That's what I was saying, the moment you put together all the diversity of workflows, those 1-2 issues everyone has become hundreds of issues. But some refuse to acknowledge them because they're just too focused on their own workflow seemingly working fine. They don't see the bigger picture.

      Originally posted by muncrief View Post
      I'll keep my eyes and ears open though, and try it on a VM from time to time.
      There will come a day when Xorg is dead though, and while I'll remember it fondly, I'll be happy to move on to something more modern, efficient, and secure.
      I'll do the same, check once in a while. With Gnome and GDM, it's just a log out away.
      When I deem it ready for my workflow(s), I'll be happy to move on. It's still probably going to be another 2 years though, given the above-mentioned hundreds of issues here and there. And it's alright.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by aphysically View Post
        Gentoo pulled this release due to some bugs stopping some systems from booting. Last I saw upstream is still investigating it.

        Here's the bug tracking it https://bugs.gentoo.org/739056
        Got it earlier this morning as well in Manjaro.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
          Accept pop culture and degrade into a monkey with GNOME's horrible UX?
          Get help.

          Originally posted by Mez' View Post
          It's almost funny indeed.

          Many people are stating it's ready, then at the end of their praise, they add something like:
          - Only a couple of challenges
          - The only problems I've ran into are
          - Just a few issues left
          - If that issue could now be solved, it would really be perfect.

          That's what I was saying, the moment you put together all the diversity of workflows, those 1-2 issues everyone has become hundreds of issues. But some refuse to acknowledge them because they're just too focused on their own workflow seemingly working fine. They don't see the bigger picture.


          I'll do the same, check once in a while. With Gnome and GDM, it's just a log out away.
          When I deem it ready for my workflow(s), I'll be happy to move on. It's still probably going to be another 2 years though, given the above-mentioned hundreds of issues here and there. And it's alright.
          It's not really. If we agree on talking about "well supported" Environments in both X11 and Wayland, then there is a catch. Your perspective doesn't take into account that people do also have issues with X11. If you take that into account you'll see that the difference in user experience papercuts is reallly really small.

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          • #45
            Vistaus Sorry but this release doesn’t come with Wayland. But most commits are XWayland related. Look it up.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
              Vistaus Sorry but this release doesn’t come with Wayland. But most commits are XWayland related. Look it up.
              Of course, the GNOME Troll didn't understand my post. What a surprise.

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