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Several DDX Drivers Aren't Yet Ready For X.Org Server 1.20

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  • MrCooper
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    Michael the xf86-video-ati/amdgpu 18.0.y release announcements contained this:

    This release supports xserver versions 1.13-1.19. It also works with
    xserver 1.20 RC1, so unless something unexpected happens, it should work with xserver 1.20 as well.
    Nothing unexpected happened, so no new releases are needed for xserver 1.20.

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  • R41N3R
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    Since X.org 1.20 the Steam client doesn't work reliable anymore. On Plasma-Wayland it seems like the Steam window freezes, no input is accepted anymore. Even on Plasma X11 the window content sometimes is not drawn anymore. This happens only on my AMD machines with Mesa modesetting. Maybe it is an OpenGL bug which didn't affect X.org 1.19.

    Update: I found a bug that is related to the Steam freezes https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106351. Plasma on X11 can freeze as well, bug https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/58549. They seem to be related, at least the Arch Linux bug links to the one on freedesktop.org. I've updated to Mesa-git, but it didn't fix it so far.
    Last edited by R41N3R; 13 May 2018, 07:16 AM.

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  • TemplarGR
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    I thought the latest amdgpu driver for Xorg was supposed to support 1.20?

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  • Adarion
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    > obscure drivers like Tseng, SiS, R128, and March64

    Obscure? Once those things were really widespread chips! I do hope that these (incl. Geode and the modern drivers ati, amdgpu, intel,...) will see an update, soon.
    One can probably use "modesetting" driver or VESA but esp. the latter is just an emergency solution. And does the modesetting do any good without some underlying stack? Most of the acceleration logic for the old chips was likely in the ddx (as there is probably no KMS for them yet). And if these drivers cease to exist (Gentoo kicked out a whole bunch recently), then there will not even be smooth scrolling for those chips. And maybe we can watch then for an image to appear, line by line by line as in the days of old.

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  • timofonic
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    Originally posted by R41N3R View Post

    Reading the bug quite fast it seem to not affect Kwin or Mutter. I will read it more detailed once I have time, thanks for the information.
    I'm imagining lots of funny jokes about procrastination after reading your message, but I'm too lazy to take the time to write them :P

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  • R41N3R
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    Originally posted by pq1930562 View Post

    xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-amdgpu support TearFree (VSync) whereas xf86-video-modesetting does not, see: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98876
    Reading the bug quite fast it seem to not affect Kwin or Mutter. I will read it more detailed once I have time, thanks for the information.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by Aleksei View Post
    Someone make a joke about developers and procrastination please, I can't think of one.
    I don't have anything good at the moment. Does a sarcastic "Release early, release often" crack a smile?

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Aleksei View Post
    Someone make a joke about developers and procrastination please, I can't think of one.
    I can't think of any, but I'm sure that a good ol' musical about procrastination will do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi3aEGo8y-E

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  • pq1930562
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    Originally posted by R41N3R View Post
    I got rid of all the non modesetting drivers long time ago. Don't know if there is still a reason to use them for AMD.
    xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-amdgpu support TearFree (VSync) whereas xf86-video-modesetting does not, see: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98876

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  • Aleksei
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    It's been three years since their last xf86-video-intel 3.0 release candidate and now five years since their last stable release of the Intel DDX driver.
    Someone make a joke about developers and procrastination please, I can't think of one.

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