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    Phoronix: Game Engine Powered Arcan Display Server With Durden Desktop Updated

    Arcan, the open-source display server powered by a game engine, is out with a new release. Its Durden desktop environment has also been updated...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...5.3-Durden-0.3

  • #2
    ?? I don't understand... Does it emulate Wayland and X right from the get-go?

    Also is that an opengl context on his own?

    Too many questions!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cape View Post
      ?? I don't understand... Does it emulate Wayland and X right from the get-go?

      Also is that an opengl context on his own?

      Too many questions!
      It looks like the Durden desktop have its own applications.
      http://durden.arcan-fe.com/

      So you can not run X applications.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

        It looks like the Durden desktop have its own applications.
        http://durden.arcan-fe.com/

        So you can not run X applications.
        You can run Wayland applications and it partially emulates X. Don't spread misinformation, please.
        Last edited by Vistaus; 09-23-2017, 07:37 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cape View Post
          ?? I don't understand... Does it emulate Wayland and X right from the get-go?

          Also is that an opengl context on his own?

          Too many questions!
          supports wayland applications and partially emulates X, but the X emulation is far less polished.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            supports wayland applications and partially emulates X, but the X emulation is far less polished.
            I'm really unable to understand Arcan and Durden, despite I'm starting to understand Enlightenment (another very interesting but strange beast).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by timofonic View Post

              I'm really unable to understand Arcan and Durden, despite I'm starting to understand Enlightenment (another very interesting but strange beast).
              Enlightenment is a WM/DE, just like Durden. But Durden only works on Arcan and Arcan is a totally different display as it's built on top of a game engine rather than the usual. And Durden also has some unique features (okay, maybe a few other WM's/DE's are able to do some of them, but not by default and not in an easy-to-configure way).

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              • #8
                Wayland is nothing more than a display server protocol. If Durden supports Wayland applications, it doesn't "emulate" Wayland, it simply is a Wayland server. Just like Gnome Shell, Plasma, Weston, or Enlightenment are also Wayland servers.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by timofonic View Post
                  I'm really unable to understand Arcan and Durden, despite I'm starting to understand Enlightenment (another very interesting but strange beast).
                  I like that there are such parallel projects, completely different. Exploring different ways.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by timofonic View Post

                    I'm really unable to understand Arcan and Durden, despite I'm starting to understand Enlightenment (another very interesting but strange beast).
                    Maybe the picture here helps: https://arcanfe.files.wordpress.com/...9867076999.png

                    You don't need to understand the whole thing (and there's quite a lot more going on than this), but just think of Arcan as "Xorg" and Durden as the "Window Manager". The WM lives inside a Lua- virtual machine instead of a regular process, but has the same general advantage (errors in the window manager doesn't kill clients and you can switch window managers while running). It also gets access to a more advanced API than what a WM had through Xlib, and much stronger control over clients.

                    There are other, window managers than Durden around as well. Prio is a more lightweight and easier code to play with, and a yet-to-be-released VR one.

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