NVIDIA Makes It Easier On Fedora To Try GNOME With EGLStreams On Wayland

[gurv]

The hard truth is also that to this day X lets you do things and Wayland doesn't.

So while I appreciate the fresh, open approach, I do not understand the apparent urgency to migrate just yet.

Yeah, I'm more and more of a skeptic regarding Wayland.
X doesn't really stand in my way any more and at this point I think the transition to Wayland is more interesting for developers than for users.

Regarding the "portals", if Wayland means I have to use that crappy DE that is Gnome, than I'd rather stay on X.

[TheOne]

We could expeculate that the illuminati are pushing for the unification of desktop environments on linux world, Gnome been the chosen one for world domination. LOL </sarcasm> But who knows if something about this holds true :P </moresarcasm?>

[entropy]

Anybody knows, if this works painless and easy with mux-less Optimus notebooks (or at all)?
So far, my experience with my Thinkpad (Haswell + NV 730GT) is
utter crap when it comes to the NVidia GPU (under Linux).

Yeah, my bad.
Will stay (far) away from such configurations in the future.

[franglais125]

Does this mean X apps will never work with OGL in a Wayland EGLStream session?

My understanding is that X apps don't work at all on a Wayland session with the Nvidia driver. Anyone else can confirm/refute this?

[magika]

My understanding is that X apps don't work at all on a Wayland session with the Nvidia driver. Anyone else can confirm/refute this?

It can, but only through software GL driver for XWayland, its hellishly slow. See https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53284

[Cape]

Frankly I don't understand all this FUSS about Wayland.

About a year ago, I re-installed fedora on my mom's notebook with intel GPU. Came with Wayland by default. Had 0 problems, smooth as silk.

That's it.

Now, I'd like to use Wayland on my desktop, but unfortunately nVidiar.... So instead of waiting for a halfass patchy solution, I'll just buy an ATI GPU.

Problem solutioned. Wayland achieved.

If you need screencapture or some exotic resolution, just wait a little longer. Maybe give a hand to the developdevelopment.
AND understand that developing a full-set of protocols that define a desktop environment that needs to be modular and flexible enough for a big number of well established DEs/WMs is NOT EASY and not quick. You better take it slowly enough to avoid another 30 years of pain.

[R41N3R]

Anybody knows, if this works painless and easy with mux-less Optimus notebooks (or at all)?
So far, my experience with my Thinkpad (Haswell + NV 730GT) is
utter crap when it comes to the NVidia GPU (under Linux).

Yeah, my bad.
Will stay (far) away from such configurations in the future.

I had a similar configuration, and the only thing I did see was bugs and crashes. I really don't want a Nvidia GPU in any of my systems. Instead of providing a real solution now they give Gnome users this half baked thing. Not to mention that Wayland with any other Desktop will still not work!

[pal666]

Wayland after all these years is struggling with things like... accessing the hardware, picking up a colour from the screen, taking a snapshot...

wayland has better access to hardware than x11. and ability to pick a colour from the screen or take snapshot was in the first place an x11 bug, which wayland was designed to fix

WTF!!!!

welcome to reality

[pal666]

smoke and mirrors instead of releasing docs and developing mesa driver

[pal666]

I'm not sure I follow.

that is not surprising