Mir Developer Hopes Community Will Use It & Add Wayland Compatibility

[khagaroth]

They probably are great developers, but it doesn't matter if the management tell them to build rome and the great wall of china in 1 day

I think he was rather referring to them completely misunderstanding how wayland input worked and spreading baseless fud justifying their nih approach.

[andrei_me]

so most capable engineers you've ever worked with were unable to understand wayland properly. that is pretty low level of engineers around you

Jeez, chill out bro, it all started in ~2013, wayland was being developed by Høgsberg, everyone was starting to support it.

Canonical leaders/managers thought that they could be faster doing things by their own, it isn't the fault of the developers if the management is telling them to build stuff from the scratch.

They probably are great developers, but it doesn't matter if the management tell them to build rome and the great wall of china in 1 day

[pal666]

The Mir developers are some of the smartest. most capable engineers I've ever had the pleasure of working with

so most capable engineers you've ever worked with were unable to understand wayland properly. that is pretty low level of engineers around you

[pal666]

When you are employed by a company you work on the projects you are given towards the company's goals. You can't just say you're not working on a project because someone else is already working on a similar solution.

but you can avoid writing stupid blogs and you can tell your manager that you see better direction for project

[pal666]

Wayland has made its way, but Mir too.

mir's way ended in grave

[sarmad]

Wayland has made its way, but Mir too. Unity is a widely used as a DE - AND is running on some touch/mobile devices (even with 'convergence', to some extend quite well).

Focus should be now: how to combine the best of both...

The way to combine the best of both IMO is to develop a mobile version of Gnome, and, if possible, make it responsive to screen size.

[pal666]

where do you read about people's opinion, who actually have to work with Wayland?

on wayland ml?

[pal666]

There is no one now starting to contribute to ex-canonical projects when they dont require the CLA anymore. So long for the "honest" Linux-"Community".

because only idiot would work on project dumped by its authors.

[pal666]

Yes. Mir offers a display server, Wayland offers a way to talk to a display server.

you could phrase it better as "mir has only one implementation of display server". now it doesn't sound like an improvement

[pal666]

Does Mir offer anything that Wayland doesn't?

c++11 codebase. this is big one, but it can be applied to wayland without any mir