Wayland 1.13 Beta Released

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Wayland 1.13 Beta Released

Bryce Harrington at Samsung's Open-Source Group has announced the release of the Wayland 1.13 beta...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-1.13-Beta-Released

[uid313]

Wayland might be great, but is not compelling to use if I have to run the most commonly used applications through X.Org.

Chrome, Firefox and Electron (hence Atom, Spotify, VS Code) does not support Wayland yet.

[Vistaus]

Wayland might be great, but is not compelling to use if I have to run the most commonly used applications through X.Org.

Chrome, Firefox and Electron (hence Atom, Spotify, VS Code) does not support Wayland yet.

Chrome doesn't support Wayland yet, but Chromium does. They inherited a lot of the chromium-ozone code and you can install said version from AUR if you're on Arch.

[uid313]

Chrome doesn't support Wayland yet, but Chromium does. They inherited a lot of the chromium-ozone code and you can install said version from AUR if you're on Arch.

Chromium 55 on Ubuntu doesn't work on Wayland yet.
Chromium 56 isn't available yet on Ubuntu.

[unixfan2001]

You could always compile a build yourself.
Or install the most recent Chromium from the following PPA.

https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-dev

[nomadewolf]

Wayland might be great, but is not compelling to use if I have to run the most commonly used applications through X.Org.

Chrome, Firefox and Electron (hence Atom, Spotify, VS Code) does not support Wayland yet.

The only reason Wayland is not compeling to use, to me, is because i can only use it with Gnome, and i don't use Gnome...
Otherwise, it's normal that at first we'll have to run most apps through xwayland and with time they get ported...

[Vistaus]

The only reason Wayland is not compeling to use, to me, is because i can only use it with Gnome, and i don't use Gnome...
Otherwise, it's normal that at first we'll have to run most apps through xwayland and with time they get ported...

What are you talking about? Enlightenment also works fine on Wayland, so does Hawaii, Sway (i3 port to Wayland), Budgie, Mate. KDE also works more or less. Sure, not all of them work perfect on Wayland yet, but they are working so you don't need GNOME to use Wayland.

[nomadewolf]

What are you talking about? Enlightenment also works fine on Wayland, so does Hawaii, Sway (i3 port to Wayland), Budgie, Mate. KDE also works more or less. Sure, not all of them work perfect on Wayland yet, but they are working so you don't need GNOME to use Wayland.

KDE does not work on Wayland. It's making progress, but it's not there yet.
Never even heard of Hawaii or Sway.
And i don't use Enlightenment, Budgie or Mate.

I don't think i'm being biased when i say that in Linux, when we talk about DEs, we're mainly referring to Gnome, KDE, Unity and Cinnamon. There are others. They have their uses. But we're talking of a much smaller user base, which i don't fit into.

[Vistaus]

KDE does not work on Wayland. It's making progress, but it's not there yet.
Never even heard of Hawaii or Sway.
And i don't use Enlightenment, Budgie or Mate.

I don't think i'm being biased when i say that in Linux, when we talk about DEs, we're mainly referring to Gnome, KDE, Unity and Cinnamon. There are others. They have their uses. But we're talking of a much smaller user base, which i don't fit into.

No, you said that you can use Wayland only with GNOME. I simply corrected you by listing more DE's that work on Wayland. (and KDE 5.9 does work Wayland, it's not perfect yet, but it does run and Budgie is getting more and more popular, so the userbase is increasing) A more complete list can be found here btw: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...desktop_shells

But what exactly are you using? (what DE, I mean)

[nomadewolf]

No, you said that you can use Wayland only with GNOME. I simply corrected you by listing more DE's that work on Wayland. (and KDE 5.9 does work Wayland, it's not perfect yet, but it does run and Budgie is getting more and more popular, so the userbase is increasing) A more complete list can be found here btw: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...desktop_shells

But what exactly are you using? (what DE, I mean)

Let's be fair here... Fedora 25 'just' came out with Wayland by default. We're talking about one distro, trying to make the move. It's finnaly on the horizon, we can see it, but we're not there, yet.
And Gnome is the DE with the best Wayland support, or maybe Enlightenment. I know they also have invested alot on Wayland.
Budgie is a good looking upcoming DE, but i don't know about their Wayland support...
KDE, i test almost every week http://files.kde.org/neon/images/pla...table/current/ and while it's making progress lately, it's just not usable. Not stable enough. Just no.

That said, and answering to your question, the DE i use is Cinnamon, which doens't even has plans for Wayland.