Fedora Is Hosting A Wayland Test Day Tomorrow

[AdamW]

Thanks everyone who attended the Test Day. Write up: https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/1...st-day-report/

[uid313]

It is not all of nothing. Practically everyone is going to using XWayland for a long time for compatibility. The transition cannot be clean slate.

Indeed.

But the most important apps to run natively without XWayland are the ones that I use the most.

I need my web browser to run natively on Wayland, because that is what I use most.

[pal666]

Well, I was thinking of getting feedback from diverse configurations.

so everyone willing to take part in this testing is free to join

Could you elaborate a bit why this wouldn't work?

maybe you should read linked page with explanation of process?

[RahulSundaram]

Also, if all the applications I use runs under XWayland, why should I even use Wayland instead of X?
If you run everything through XWayland then it defeats the advantages of Wayland, and you might as well use X.

It is not all of nothing. Practically everyone is going to using XWayland for a long time for compatibility. The transition cannot be clean slate.

[uid313]

Everything runs perfectly on XWayland which I am using since Fedora 23. Porting those applications, is not their problem.

Yes, they run on Wayland through XWayland, that is true.
However, applications running in XWayland have ugly window decorators, so the user experience is worse.

Also, if all the applications I use runs under XWayland, why should I even use Wayland instead of X?
If you run everything through XWayland then it defeats the advantages of Wayland, and you might as well use X.

[AdamW]

Couldn't they display a notification on a random number of computers to ask the users if they have a few minutes to try the Wayland environment and report the results? This could be part of their next release.

Educating the users on the benefits of Wayland, while letting them choose whether to participate or not, in a transparent way (and publish the results). I do not see any obvious downside to this approach.

We don't have any system like that - we can't just send out arbitrary notifications like that. Of course we could write something like that and send it out as an update, but we don't have any plans to do that, I don't think. It's the sort of thing Linux users tend to get annoyed by

[Adriannho]

Firefox and Chrome needs to be ported to Wayland.
GIMP needs to be ported from GTK2 to GTK3.
Electron (which is the framework used by Atom and Spotify) needs to be ported from GTK2 to GTK3 and ported to Wayland.

Electron is already ported;
Check https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/2927 and https://www.archlinux.org/packages/c...6_64/electron/

[Adriannho]

Electron (which is the framework used by Atom and Spotify) needs to be ported from GTK2 to GTK3 and ported to Wayland.

Check this link: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/c...6_64/electron/
and this https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/2927.

Apparently Electron builds with gtk3 already.

[[email protected]]

no, random users can't help them

Well, I was thinking of getting feedback from diverse configurations. And to avoid being flooded with feedback, I thought about random selection (random, as in, triggered client-side, and eventually manually triggerable). Make it easy for users to test how their setup behave, including reporting incompatible software, etc.

Could you elaborate a bit why this wouldn't work? Are they seeking some in-depth technical report? Some kind of feedback that only a handful of users can provide?

[Michael]

Michael there is bad link, it should be https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_...-10-13_Wayland

That is the link I used, isn't it?