Wayland-Protocols 1.6 Adds XDG-Foreign, Idle-Inhibit

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Wayland-Protocols 1.6 Adds XDG-Foreign, Idle-Inhibit

A new version of the Wayland Protocols is now available...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-Protocols-1.6

[uid313]

Idle-Inhibit is needed to the screensaver don't start when watching videos with your girl.

[Azpegath]

Michael, any chance we'll get some new Native Wayland vs XWayland vs X tests? It seems the Wayland bandwagon has kind-of slowed down and nothing is going on anymore. The excitement is completely gone, now when it's actually getting ready for prime-time. It was supposed to solve so much, and hopefully bring improved performance and less overhead with it, but we haven't seen anything like that yet.

[Michael]

Michael, any chance we'll get some new Native Wayland vs XWayland vs X tests? It seems the Wayland bandwagon has kind-of slowed down and nothing is going on anymore. The excitement is completely gone, now when it's actually getting ready for prime-time. It was supposed to solve so much, and hopefully bring improved performance and less overhead with it, but we haven't seen anything like that yet.

Soon as time allows been planning a new comparison with current state of Fedora 25 packages.

[uid313]

Problems I've had with Wayland:

• GNOME Terminal is buggy, it has a ugly shadow.
• Evince is buggy, it has ugly window decorators.
• Window placement is a mess. When you start an application the window shows in weird places, not where you closed it last time.
• Menu in GTK applications fade in and out under Weston, it's weird. This works fine in GNOME Shell though.
• Firefox and Chromium are not natively available. Works through XWayland though.
• Weston doesn't have window placement edge resistance so its difficult to place windows.
• Weston doesn't have window placement hotkeys (such as WinKey+Left and WinKey+Right).

[boxie]

Michael, any chance we'll get some new Native Wayland vs XWayland vs X tests? It seems the Wayland bandwagon has kind-of slowed down and nothing is going on anymore. The excitement is completely gone, now when it's actually getting ready for prime-time. It was supposed to solve so much, and hopefully bring improved performance and less overhead with it, but we haven't seen anything like that yet.

yes and no. Wayland *not* being exciting is great! It means that it *is* ready for prime time. It is stable. It is exactly what all the DE's need - a stable base to implement against. Gnome/KDE/Enlightenment/et al. are right now all busy implementing things and finding the corner cases where things could be better.

This is the phase that while not be full of news, is full of exciting code an beta testing

[Azpegath]

yes and no. Wayland *not* being exciting is great! It means that it *is* ready for prime time. It is stable. It is exactly what all the DE's need - a stable base to implement against. Gnome/KDE/Enlightenment/et al. are right now all busy implementing things and finding the corner cases where things could be better.

This is the phase that while not be full of news, is full of exciting code an beta testing

I agree, and that's what I meant by stating "the excitement is gone", it feels like it is NOW we SHOULD be excited! =)