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  • Wayland Founder Kristian Høgsberg Is The Latest Open-Source Developer Leaving Intel

    Phoronix: Wayland Founder Kristian Høgsberg Is The Latest Open-Source Developer Leaving Intel

    Sadly, another blow to report on with regard to Intel's open-source efforts... Just days after reporting on Intel losing its chief Linux/open-source technologist, Dirk Hohndel, there's another high profile departure in the open-source world. Today marks the last day at Intel for Wayland founder Kristian Høgsberg...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-Departs-Intel

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    I can only imagine what the environment is like on the inside over there.

    I'll go out on a branch and make a prediction: Intel is either going to buy or partner w/ AMD's RTG.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by johnc View Post
      I can only imagine what the environment is like on the inside over there.

      I'll go out on a branch and make a prediction: Intel is either going to buy or partner w/ AMD's RTG.
      You mean like AMD is licensing Hyper-Threading for _ZEN? so in the end Intel is maybe licensing the Graphics Core Next (GCN) 1.3+ architecture ?
      Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post

        You mean like AMD is licensing Hyper-Threading for _ZEN? so in the end Intel is maybe licensing the Graphics Core Next (GCN) 1.3+ architecture ?
        AMD doesn't need to license hyper-threading.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SaucyJack View Post

          AMD doesn't need to license hyper-threading.
          they did license it in fact.
          Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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          • #6
            A quick scroll through Kristian's Twitter and 5 minutes of research yields the impression that quite a few people at Intel were not happy about their CEO proposing a Trump fundraiser. Sometimes it's more about leaving where you are than it is about finding somewhere new.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post

              they did license it in fact.
              Where did you get this information? As far as I'm aware, AMD is doing their own SMT (Simultaneous-Multi-Threading) implementation. That's all "Hyperthreading" is, an SMT implementation. AMD licensing Hyperthreading would be like NVidia licensing AMD's vulkan implementation in their driver. Not only is it not necessary as Vulkan is a free spec, it wouldn't make sense as it wouldn't go with their architecture at all.

              Also, if we're going to mention licenses, let's not forget Intel licenses the x86_64 64-bit architecture from AMD...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post

                Where did you get this information? As far as I'm aware, AMD is doing their own SMT (Simultaneous-Multi-Threading) implementation. That's all "Hyperthreading" is, an SMT implementation. AMD licensing Hyperthreading would be like NVidia licensing AMD's vulkan implementation in their driver. Not only is it not necessary as Vulkan is a free spec, it wouldn't make sense as it wouldn't go with their architecture at all.

                Also, if we're going to mention licenses, let's not forget Intel licenses the x86_64 64-bit architecture from AMD...
                I guess he is just pointing out that Intel and AMD have a cross licensing going on, which, as far as I read in the media when it was signed, is not limited to certain technologies, but involves all of processor technologies. That does not mean they are going to use the technology from "the other side" in their products. AFAIK it is mostly important, as you mentioned, because Intel owns the x86 IP, while AMD owns the AMD64 IP, so they are forced to licence to each other or neither side could produce modern AMD64 CPUs any more.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
                  Also, if we're going to mention licenses, let's not forget Intel licenses the x86_64 64-bit architecture from AMD...
                  AMD and Intel have a cross licensing scheme where anything one does the other has access to. It has been quite beneficial to both companies.

                  If AMD have leveraged some of intels SMP work, it would not surprise me.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Geopirate View Post
                    A quick scroll through Kristian's Twitter and 5 minutes of research yields the impression that quite a few people at Intel were not happy about their CEO proposing a Trump fundraiser. Sometimes it's more about leaving where you are than it is about finding somewhere new.
                    My thoughts exactly.

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