Honestly, I don't care if they ultimately end up dropping Mir. As long as they drop X right along with it. I cannot stand that behemothic dinosaur of a protocol any more. Decades of continuous extensions have left it only marginally more useable than either of its supposed successors (Mir and Wayland).
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Originally posted by Scias View PostSo now where are all the Ubuntu zealots who were shitting on Wayland for being too slow to come and believed every of Shuttleworth's words about Unity 8/Mir default for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
Years of useless PR later, Unity 8 on Mir didn't reach alpha-quality on desktop yet (while GNOME on Wayland is almost ready for daily use).
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Originally posted by sarmad View PostWell, Wayland is also still not the default. So, Canonical isn't the only one struggling. I remember the talk about Fedora 21 using Wayland by default!
ubuntu on the other hand only did similar thing in 16.04 and in much worse/less functional state than wayland/Gnome was on Fedora in 21. so far, users couldn't even test more or less anything to report real life usage deficiencies
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Originally posted by dvanzo View Post
Are you aware this is not a Mir issue but an Unity 8 issue? And about GNOME on Wayland is almost ready the keyword is "almost". It could be for you but for the rest?
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Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View PostOne can also install Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, install gnome-session-wayland package, choice Wayland in gdm, and voila...
I'd rather stay with fedora, though, and be a part those who are pushing forward linux, and oss in general.
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Originally posted by Xaero_Vincent View PostWayland is shaping up but there are still many bugs, random crashes back to the login manager, and a heavy dependence on XWayland for most apps to function. I doubt it will be viable for at least a couple more years.
For instance, GNOME on Wayland doesn't even yet support displaying icons on the desktop. Whats up with that?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_t...owing_in_GNOME
That said, I did come up with a hack solution for icons on GNOME Wayland at least:
Screenshot: http://images.akamai.steamuserconten...37B1EAB6B97B2/
Code:#!/bin/bash # Name: waylandicons.sh # Author: Xaero_Vincent # Date: 5/3/2016 # Requires: GNOME 3.x, SpaceFM, Openbox, Maim, Wayland, XWayland, Xephyr # Purpose: A script to workaround missing GNOME desktop icons on Wayland # Usage: 'waylandicons.sh /path/wallpaper.jpg/png' 'screen resolution X' 'screen resolution Y' # Example: ./waylandicons.sh '/usr\/share\/backgrounds\/gnome\/Road.jpg' '1600' '900' '2' # Info: GNOME '.desktop' launcher shortcuts should use 'env DISPLAY=:0 command' # Info: The 'resolution' arguments should be set the same as the current monitor resolution # Info: The last argument specifies the number of icon columns needed wallpaper=$1 resX=$2 resY=$3 columns=$4 rm /home/$USER/Pictures/waylandbackg.png gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///$(echo $wallpaper | tr -d '\\') sleep 2 gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-options "stretched" sleep 2 sed -i '17s/.*wallpaper.*/wallpaper=\'$wallpaper'/' /home/$USER/.config/spacefm/session mkdir /home/$USER/icontmp mv /home/$USER/Desktop/* /home/$USER/icontmp Xephyr -title "Configuring Background..." -ac -noreset -screen $resX'x'$resY :1 & spacefm --display=:1 --desktop & sleep 2 DISPLAY=:1 maim -g $((125*$columns))x$(($resY-100))x0x64 /home/$USER/Pictures/waylandbackg.png sed -i '17s/.*wallpaper.*/wallpaper=\/home\/'$USER'\/Pictures\/waylandbackg.png/' /home/$USER/.config/spacefm/session sleep 2 mv /home/$USER/icontmp/* /home/$USER/Desktop rmdir /home/$USER/icontmp killall -9 Xephyr killall -9 spacefm sleep 2 Xephyr -title "Desktop Icons" -ac -noreset -screen $((125*$columns))x$(($resY-100)) :1 & DISPLAY=:1 openbox-session & spacefm --display=:1 --desktop &
What's up is that to even see this bug you need to toggle a gsettings value (false by default).
Wayland is usable NOW, and will be quite a bit better with 24.
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It certainly is a mistake. Four years now talking about convergence, and proving it to all be talk over and over again. I'd have said 14.10 was the right time to start climbing the mountain getting Unity 8 production ready, but not having it even for 18.04 will be a disgrace if that comes to transpire, and it seems very poorly planned if they mean to upset so many internals in 17.04.
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Originally posted by franglais125 View Post- Canonical dropped Upstart after essentially the whole community opted against Upstart, Debian was only the last large member. ANd calling it "damn Debian"? Seriously? Ubuntu gets all the free work from Debian.
Keep calm and stop ranting!
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