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I'm curious. Wouldn't minimize support only require the compositor to tell the renderer, "Don't render this window for now" or "Render this window to a 30px x 30px surface"? Is there currently no way to tell Wayland to not bother rendering a target window, or to render it to a smaller surface?
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No, the protocol is not there. Wayland clients need a protocol to ask the compositor to minimize them when the user clicks on the minimize button in the window decoration. Then the compositor will aknoweledge that and effectively minimize it, with fancy animations or whatnot.
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Originally posted by giucam View PostActually it was altready working. The new thing is that it shows windows tumbnails.
That's Weston's problem, not Wayland's.
The shell in weston is a toy, but the compositor and backends are very solid and meant to be used in production.
I don't know where this thing that minimization does not need to be in the protocol and it's all in compositors' hands came from. It's plain wrong. There is the need of a protocol to let a client request the compositor to minimize it, just like there is one to maximize or make a client fullscreen. That is being worked on, so we'll hopefully see it soon, and when that will happen we will also see it working in Weston.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostWhen should someone decide to write a compositor, and when should someone decide to write a shell plugin for Weston?
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Originally posted by giucam View PostIf you don't want to write a compositor your best bet is to write a shell plugin for Weston, which is what i guess those wm will do if they get ported to Wayland.
Who should write a shell plugin for Weston?
When should someone decide to write a compositor, and when should someone decide to write a shell plugin for Weston?
What decides which route to go?
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If you don't want to write a compositor your best bet is to write a shell plugin for Weston, which is what i guess those wm will do if they get ported to Wayland.
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Compositor indenpendent of window manager?
Can Wayland have a compositor independent of the window manager?
Or will all window managers also have to be compositors?
I hope Fluxbox, Openbox, Blackbox, wmii, awesome, ratpoison, dwm, i3, etc gets ported to Wayland.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostAwesome to see alt-tab window switching.
Originally posted by uid313 View PostA problem with Wayland is that it has no mouse acceleration so the mouse pointer moves really slow and is a pain in the ass to use.
Weston is just a live example of how to implement a wayland compositor. Nothing more. Don't expect it to be a usable DE. It will not.
There's no minimizing because there is not universal way to do it thus it don't belong in a reference compositor.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostAwesome to see alt-tab window switching.
Expose is nice too!
A problem with Wayland is that it has no mouse acceleration so the mouse pointer moves really slow and is a pain in the ass to use.
Also sucks that you cant minimize windows in Weston.
I would really like to see window grid placement. Press WinKey+4 to place window on left side of screen, press WinKey+6 to move window to right side of screen.
WinKey+9 for upper-right corner, etc.
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Awesome to see alt-tab window switching.
Expose is nice too!
A problem with Wayland is that it has no mouse acceleration so the mouse pointer moves really slow and is a pain in the ass to use.
Also sucks that you cant minimize windows in Weston.
I would really like to see window grid placement. Press WinKey+4 to place window on left side of screen, press WinKey+6 to move window to right side of screen.
WinKey+9 for upper-right corner, etc.
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