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Originally posted by benalib View Postother DEs can implement Mir support but their refusal is more political than technical. there is QMir which brings Mir support. Other GUI toolkit will be implemented. so there is no any technical reason for your argument
So yes, most KDE applications will probably run under a Mir-based DE but the Wokspaces components (esp. KWin itself) won't and the reason for that is technical. Martin Graesslin went a bit more into detail in a G+ post from 2, 3, or so months ago.
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Originally posted by benalib View Postother DEs can implement Mir support but their refusal is more political than technical. there is QMir which brings Mir support. Other GUI toolkit will be implemented. so there is no any technical reason for your argument
yes indeed Unity-Next is designed for Mir the inverse is not fully true
I've explained these reasons so many times on this forums to people like you who don't bother learning the facts but instead just read everything from the blog of Shuttleworth, JonoBacon or some other Canonical PR man (read: liar).
So I'm not going to bother explaining them once again. Let someone else take a turn for a chance. Suffice it to say, no one else will use Mir because it's not a feasible solution for anyone else, and there's already Wayland which is designed to run in various, diverse environments and be 100% customizable to every need from mobile/embedded to desktop to workstations.
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Originally posted by omglotsofdots View PostThe head of gnome says "i see no feature linux in the desktop market" .
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Originally posted by benalib View Postother DEs can implement Mir support but their refusal is more political than technical.
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Originally posted by benalib View Postother DEs can implement Mir support but their refusal is more political than technical. there is QMir which brings Mir support. Other GUI toolkit will be implemented. so there is no any technical reason for your argument
yes indeed Unity-Next is designed for Mir the inverse is not fully true
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostNobody aside from Canonical will ever choose Mir, because it's developed with Unity in mind. So any "win" of Canonical in that regard is mostly worthless to the rest of the desktop Linux platform, because they're using a different display stack and a different desktop environment. Also, Mir and Wayland aren't exactly direct competitors, either. Wayland is not affected by the Mir developments, they continue trying to get things set up perfectly, just as before. Had Canonical stayed with Wayland, or at least given up on Mir, this whole mess could have been averted.
yes indeed Unity-Next is designed for Mir the inverse is not fully true
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Originally posted by BO$$We will probably see Shuttleworth unveil the master plan in the coming months/years. And it's probably gonna be great for the Linux desktop. Not that there are many corporations out there who support and advance the desktop at this time..... The money just isn't there unless maybe after you reach a threshold and see profit so nobody is trying. Which is why we should be a little more grateful towards Canonical, spewing less hate towards them. If it wasn't for them we would still be using RHEL 6 with shit driver support and no games.
Besides, if Canonical, Ubuntu and Shuttleworth are THE commercial forces you proclaim them to be, they don't need my support to make their FrankenLinux a success.
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Originally posted by dh04000 View PostI saw that article and your interpretation is very piss-poor.
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Originally posted by dh04000 View PostI don't see why people think its fair to mock Mir for not being ready after 1 year of development(ie: its useless, can't even run applications natively), but Wayland gets a free pass even though we've been waiting since early 2008.....
Mir is folly, because Canonical is too small (in size and finance) to develop and maintain a well designed display server architecture and the rest of the Linux community already has a high quality display server design in Wayland, so no serious outside development nor uptake for Mir will materialise.
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