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  • drag
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    Mir would be a lot more interesting if it actually did something useful at this point. Right now with XMir all Mir does is pretty much compositing. Everything else is handled by the X Server. The graphics drivers are all X drivers in just about the same manner as if you were running a X display server. The input is all managed by X. Mode setting is handled by X. About the only thing that Mir does at this point is just do compositing and the way they do it causes a performance drop.


    Wayland at this point is much more complete. You can do acceleration, mode setting, input control, and have native apps, all through Wayland. The API is nearing completion and in another year or so you'll be able to run KDE and Gnome desktops on it without much effort. It even has color management features.

    Wayland appears to be much more feature complete and is certainly targeting normal Linux users while Mir is more focused on Canonical's efforts with phones and tablets. I think this reflects the nature of the two projects. Wayland is started and is being worked on by the same group of people that have been working on the Linux graphics stack for many years now. It's more widely accepted then Mir and has the support of the major desktop environments in Linux while Mir does not. Mir, on the other hand, appears to be comprised mainly of Canonical employees with no or little prior display server experience.

    It would be fantastic if Mir materialized into something useful. Especially for the tablets and phone markets. It would be nice to be able to finally buy a 'proper' linux phone rather then to hack GNU style environments into Android.

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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
    I still hope there will be some room for lightweight wms like i3wm, fluxbox, awesome, etc.. in the wayland world.
    there is the Developers just have to port them over and most of the time the Big Dog's KDE Gnome Etc have to get it ported first so the little guys can use the code in the ports Lets hope the Wayland Ports are vary well Documented

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  • doom_Oo7
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    I still hope there will be some room for lightweight wms like i3wm, fluxbox, awesome, etc.. in the wayland world.

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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
    Again..... we're talking baseball, your stating basketball stats. Gnome development milestones have nothing to do with Mir. How did you make that jump that it somehow relates? It only related by a weird jump that occurred only in your head.

    I honestly think people respond to any and all posts here, then switch the topic to f-ubuntu, f-Mir, f-mono, f-pulseaudio, f-the-thing-of-the-week, and actually think in their own minds that its on topic, when it truly isn't. Insanity in action.
    it is like Baseball Mir Vs Wayland and the Gnome Wayland Port was a "Home Run" and Xmir was just a "foul ball"

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  • garegin
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    Originally posted by johnc View Post
    And if only GNOME was usable it would actually be relevant.
    Well, don't tell that to the nerds. Tell choke you with stupid stories about keyboard shortcuts and multiple desktops that gnome handles so well. It's still a usability nightmare and I have been using it for years, because I hate KDE like the plague (actually KDE has been getting better and better).

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  • dh04000
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    I think it is very related. Gnome goes ahead and show how much could be done in half of a release cycle. Not only related to having rendering based on the wayland protocol but also all the general work for X replacement. Gnome's swift response shows how much engineering power they have. Having a preview prepared like this is truly remarkable. I liked Gnome before this, but seeing Gnome's plan unfold like this is amazing. Im sure some Gnome people have worked VERY hard. Im glad KDE said no to MIR as well, even burning some bridges. But Gnome's response is a slap on Mark's face. This is personal

    Gnome 3.10 probaly turned out to be much different than anticipated. Maybe not better, but different.
    Again..... we're talking baseball, your stating basketball stats. Gnome development milestones have nothing to do with Mir. How did you make that jump that it somehow relates? It only related by a weird jump that occurred only in your head.

    I honestly think people respond to any and all posts here, then switch the topic to f-ubuntu, f-Mir, f-mono, f-pulseaudio, f-the-thing-of-the-week, and actually think in their own minds that its on topic, when it truly isn't. Insanity in action.

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  • dh04000
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    Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    More Mir more damage control? damn you work hard at it do you get paid for all of that work you do for them?
    ...... If we were talking about baseball, and all the sudden someone started talking about their favorite play in football, then I'd question that too....

    But yes, your suspicion is correct. I'm being paid by Mark Shuttleworth himself to support ubuntu. But not against anyone, just you. Everyone in the world is focusing on you, just as you always suspected. We're coming, there is no where you can hide. We're everywhere. BOOOOOO!

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  • danielnez1
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    Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    More Mir more damage control? damn you work hard at it do you get paid for all of that work you do for them?
    I'm more intrigued by the magic!

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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
    I'm confused why you brought the Mir camp into this...... entirely unrelated to this article.
    More Mir more damage control? damn you work hard at it do you get paid for all of that work you do for them?

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  • LinuxGamer
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    looks like dual monitors are finely work on Linux out of the Box

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