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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by garegin View Post
    at this point is doesn't matter. success in the real world means respect for proprietary developers and a stable API. until those things are accomplishes linux desktop will linger in niche because a platform is as good as its APPS. and the apps on linux are few and immature. all of the FOSS ones run better on Windows (vlc, firefox, mplayer, handbrake) than on Linux
    Kdenlive is much better than anything I've tried on Windows, including the commercial offerings. And it's Linux-exclusive, too.

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  • garegin
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    Ok. Whatever you say.

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  • dee.
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    Originally posted by garegin View Post
    at this point is doesn't matter. success in the real world means respect for proprietary developers and a stable API. until those things are accomplishes linux desktop will linger in niche because a platform is as good as its APPS. and the apps on linux are few and immature. all of the FOSS ones run better on Windows (vlc, firefox, mplayer, handbrake) than on Linux
    VLC and Firefox run just fine on my Linux - no difference to the windows versions at all really. GIMP runs much better on Linux than on Windows, as does Krita. Inkscape is about the same.

    There's also tons of apps on Linux, don't know what you mean "few". Many are anything but immature.

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  • dh04000
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    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    Oh I guess I mixed them up, but who keeps track of their plans...
    This was announced back in ~May. It was on most linux news sites, including this one.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    So, the next LTS release - you know, the ones marked for their higher stability - will not only have a new, untested display server made by people with no real know-how or experience with the graphics stack, but it will also have a totally rewritten from scratch desktop environment. But hey, what could possibly go wrong?
    Yeah, that stuff should be implemented in LTS+1. Hardy would have been a lot better without (poorly configured) pulseaudio.

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  • garegin
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    at this point is doesn't matter. success in the real world means respect for proprietary developers and a stable API. until those things are accomplishes linux desktop will linger in niche because a platform is as good as its APPS. and the apps on linux are few and immature. all of the FOSS ones run better on Windows (vlc, firefox, mplayer, handbrake) than on Linux

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  • dee.
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    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
    No. It will use Unity 7. Unity 8 will run on Mir natively, and that will only happen in 14.10. Assuming they don't change their minds again.
    Oh I guess I mixed them up, but who keeps track of their plans...

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  • mrugiero
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    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    but it will also have a totally rewritten from scratch desktop environment.
    No. It will use Unity 7. Unity 8 will run on Mir natively, and that will only happen in 14.10. Assuming they don't change their minds again.

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  • dee.
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    Originally posted by garegin View Post
    people forget that Unity is not a desktop. They still use Gnome for most of the parts. That means they need to port GTK to Mir and subsequently port all Gnome programs to Mir as well.
    No, they're making new Unity non-gnome-based, it will be built with Qt. That means that the entire codebase of Unity will be rewritten.

    So, the next LTS release - you know, the ones marked for their higher stability - will not only have a new, untested display server made by people with no real know-how or experience with the graphics stack, but it will also have a totally rewritten from scratch desktop environment. But hey, what could possibly go wrong?

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  • garegin
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    people forget that Unity is not a desktop. They still use Gnome for most of the parts. That means they need to port GTK to Mir and subsequently port all Gnome programs to Mir as well.

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