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  • AdamW
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    Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
    Nonsense.



    Clear as it gets. They have no plans to support Wayland. NOTHING about not supporting Wayland indefinitely.
    Right. "We have no plans" is a classic piece of PR, it's pretty much PR 101: it's wonderfully non-committal. It commits you to nothing, but on the other hand, leaves entirely open the possibility of doing something; you can change your mind the next day and it's perfectly fine, because you still 'had no plans' _at the time you said you had no plans_. Hell, you can just flat out lie when you're saying it and still be fine, because it's just about impossible for anyone else to prove you _did_ have plans, and if they do, you can just say whoever made the statement wasn't aware of them. It's bulletproof, and virtually meaningless.

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  • Sonadow
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    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
    Nvidia did say at a point that they will not support (ever) wayland

    Nonsense.

    Originally posted by Nvidia
    We have no plans to support Wayland.
    Clear as it gets. They have no plans to support Wayland. NOTHING about not supporting Wayland indefinitely.

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  • erendorn
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    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
    thats maybe not exact, but it was of course "close".
    No, "we do not" and "we will not" are not close.
    And "will not ever" is right out.

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  • Sonadow
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    Originally posted by ripps818 View Post
    All this Wayland progress looks nice, but I can't even test it until there's an Nvidia blob for Wayland. Nouveau doesn't work with my gt240 ddr5 card, so the proprietary driver is my only choice if I want to have graphical desktop...
    Out of curiosity, by 'does not work' you mean it won't even start X properly (rainbow colours immediately before even reaching the login screen)?

    What happens if you disable acceleration? Is the desktop even usable if you do?

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  • blackiwid
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    Originally posted by Delgarde View Post
    Not even close - what they said was that they had no plans to support Wayland. Not having any plans when someone asked several years ago is a very different matter from saying that they weren't going to support it.
    thats maybe not exact, but it was of course "close".

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  • soreau
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    GTK+ Is Becoming Very Usable With Wayland

    I for one applaud this. It's about time we get something 'fit for everyday use' out of wayland.

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by MartinN View Post
    Finally things are coming together on desktop side of Linux.
    I think it's a rainy windy road still . Late 2013's still distant, and we don't know yet the outcome of wayland.

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  • Delgarde
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    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
    Nvidia did say at a point that they will not support (ever) wayland
    Not even close - what they said was that they had no plans to support Wayland. Not having any plans when someone asked several years ago is a very different matter from saying that they weren't going to support it.

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  • Hamish Wilson
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    Originally posted by F i L View Post
    One of the most annoying aspects about Mir, is having to deal with everyone who inevitable attributes all post-Mir Wayland developments to it's announcement. While there surely was some unification spurred by Canonical's retarded choice to divide one of the most fundamental pieces of the Linux desktop environment, the Wayland progress you're seeing now is due to many months of work gone on before that announcement.
    Thank you.

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  • F i L
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    Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
    +1. You don't actually have more development on Wayland, it is just that the announcement of Mir lead to more news coverage on Wayland, so that people suddenly believe there would be more effort.
    Not to mention Mir was announced right around a time when many of Wayland's fruits are beginning to ripen.

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