Wayland's Wild 2024 With Better KDE Plasma Support, NVIDIA Maturity & More Desktops

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  • cl333r
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2305

    #11
    Originally posted by cen1 View Post
    I, for one, welcome our new Wayland overlords.
    +1
    I'm not gay but 20$ is 20$.

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    • uscracks94
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2023
      • 22

      #12
      I finally switched to Wayland a month ago with Ubuntu 24.10 and GNome. The input lag drives me crazy. I cannot figure out how I can fix this.

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      • Weasel
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2017
        • 4501

        #13
        What parity to X11?

        You still can't query absolute window positions from a generic bash script that works on all compositors (not some KDE specific bullshit, because yes Wayland is on such parity to X11 that you need "custom compositor-specific extensions" after all, i.e. extensions that are not found in Wayland (the protocol)), nor position such windows absolutely via your own scripts. Among a plethora of other power user issues.

        Quackdoc This is the bias of Michael. It's like reading russian propaganda. Literally most of it is made up and it never changes no matter how much you prove it wrong.

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        • thomasjkenney
          Phoronix Member
          • Oct 2023
          • 66

          #14
          I'm trying, I really am...

          No VNC
          krdpserver is really broken, at least for Neon on nVidia, and VirtualBox/Hyper-V installs of Neon
          Occasional cursor weirdness, like suddenly my arrow is 150px

          The 'no vnc/rdp' thing is really annoying, almost enough to make me fall back to XFCE until fixed.

          Otherwise, Neon is still amazing, and getting better almost daily.

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          • NEOalquimista
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 8

            #15
            No mention of elementary OS shipping a Wayland session. Not a single Phoronix article about it...

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            • xnor
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 168

              #16
              I was talking about KDE supporting Wayland. But to their excuse Wayland itself wasn't ready either.

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              • HEX0
                Phoronix Member
                • Jan 2020
                • 88

                #17
                Originally posted by andyprough View Post
                I'm not likely to ever spend another entire month in Gnome or KDE again. Maybe I'll finally get around to trying Hyprland and dwl, those two would be of actual interest to me.
                May I recommend niri
                A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor. Contribute to YaLTeR/niri development by creating an account on GitHub.

                IDK if you heard about it. Michael previously posted news about it. It's a really neat workflow. Infinite scrolling workspaces. Previously I used sway, but now I couldn't go back to traditional wms.



                Personally I don't use gaps to fit more stuff on the screen





                Last edited by HEX0; 31 December 2024, 03:50 PM.

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                • mrg666
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 1075

                  #18
                  I have been on Wayland since 3 years now. And X11 is not even installed since one year. I think Wayland has been one of the best things happened to Linux, maybe along with systemd. I hope it does not overstay like X11. I welcome the continuing development; it should evolve unlike X11 that stayed the same for decades. Linux is breaking away from all of the UNIX chains one by one.

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                  • roketscyntist
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2019
                    • 2

                    #19
                    Originally posted by mikoskinen View Post

                    If I switch to x11 the performance is as expected on the external display. Googling seems to indicate that the bad performance on external monitor with KDE & Wayland & Nvidia is a common issue. But I haven't found any solutions that help.
                    I have had a similar experience on my machine (Intel iGPU + NVIDIA GPU). I haven’t tested it in a few months now, but I’m sad to see that the issues still remain Even though I believe that they have been alleviated up to a point in which it is in a usable state. However, the underlying issue still remains. It is one of the reasons why I have been using Windows instead of Linux which is “bearable” thanks to WSL. From my past experience the only fixes were: Switch the laptop to only use the de...


                    KDE and Gnome, in my case running Arch. It basically makes Wayland unusable. On my older laptop with Intel HD 620, Wayland is perfect, I'm so over Nvidia and their Linux issues

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                    • andyprough
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 2452

                      #20
                      Originally posted by HEX0 View Post

                      May I recommend niri
                      A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor. Contribute to YaLTeR/niri development by creating an account on GitHub.

                      IDK if you heard about it. Michael previously posted news about it. It's a really neat workflow. Infinite scrolling workspaces. Previously I used sway, but now I couldn't go back to traditional wms.
                      That looks really nice. OK, in 2025 I need to resolve to try Hyprland, dwl and niri.

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