Wayland Color Management Protocol Might Finally Be Close To Merging

[Daktyl198]

There. They're all merged. Took about 20s to find out.

I tried doing that earlier and the site was buggy and slow. The search bar didn't work. The auto-complete never popped up, and I guess the auto-completed versions of "Author", "=", and names are parsed differently than just typing it in.

[Vermilion]

The point of Frog protocols wasn't the initial protocols inside of it. The point was to have a separate, collaborative set of protocols that multiple vendors could work together on and implement that was outside of the glacier that is the official Wayland Protocols committee.

That makes no sense. The "collaborative set of protocols that multiple vendors could work together on and implement" IS the upstream Wayland Protocols, that's why it takes so long for everyone to agree on something. The point of Frog protocols was to basically sidestep that collaboration process to introduce custom protocols faster.

[cl333r]

That makes no sense. The "collaborative set of protocols that multiple vendors could work together on and implement" IS the upstream Wayland Protocols, that's why it takes so long for everyone to agree on something. The point of Frog protocols was to basically sidestep that collaboration process to introduce custom protocols faster.

You both seem to vehemently agree with each other, anyway there's a video presentation of the Frog Protocols on youtube in case anyone cares.

[ahrs]

How did you come to that conclusion?

Probably because nobody (and I really do mean nobody) knows how you're supposed to setup Multiseat. It's complete voodoo, arcane black magic that even the most powerful wizards don't want to touch.

[ahrs]

What about USB game pads? When can we control the Wayland pointer with those? There used to be a X driver for the original xbox controller iirc

Were you using a specific input driver for X11? I imagine you can already do this, this is user-space you just need some driver to emulate a mouse. I don't know of one but I have a hard time thinking this doesn't exist.

I used to use SC Controller which I think allowed me to do that:

https://github.com/kozec/sc-controller

[Vermilion]

You both seem to vehemently agree with each other

No? I'm commenting on whether bypassing current upstream collaboration with a faster custom implementation that avoids these same discussions makes any sense from a collaborative POV. So one of us sees value in this effort while the other doesn't.
Nice meme tho', made me chuckle.

[ahrs]

No? I'm commenting on whether bypassing current upstream collaboration with a faster custom implementation that avoids these same discussions makes any sense from a collaborative POV. Nice meme tho'.

The only way it makes sense is as a testing ground (which is what it is really). Compositors can choose to support them in order to demonstrably prove the protocols in the wild but it's not something that's designed to be permanent like Wayland protocols is. The problem Wayland protocols has is that as soon as they start shipping something then that protocol is going to be in Debian Stable and RHEL and needs to be supported for years to come.

[Quackdoc]

Probably because nobody (and I really do mean nobody) knows how you're supposed to setup Multiseat. It's complete voodoo, arcane black magic that even the most powerful wizards don't want to touch.

single compositor multiseat as far as I am aware, doesn't work at all currently due to no compositors implementing it, you need to do multi-session multi-seat, IE, you set gpu, input devices, etc into a seat with loginctl, and run seperate wayland sessions. It's not terribly hard, just a lot of cli work. It wouldn't be hard to make a tui/gui for this.

if you want a non systemd way of doing this, apparently seatd can do it, never looked into this.

[bobbie424242]

Yay, Wayland on track to reach feature parity with Windows 3.11 for Workgroups in 2050!

[caligula]

single compositor multiseat as far as I am aware, doesn't work at all currently due to no compositors implementing it, you need to do multi-session multi-seat, IE, you set gpu, input devices, etc into a seat with loginctl, and run seperate wayland sessions. It's not terribly hard, just a lot of cli work. It wouldn't be hard to make a tui/gui for this.

if you want a non systemd way of doing this, apparently seatd can do it, never looked into this.

Like I said it works on X. I tried it once or twice. You just set up another seat with loginctl, that is, assign it a dedicated GPU. E.g. gdm supports it out of the box. The problem is it won't work with Wayland like I said, you can't log in to a DE session. It's easy to try. Just install a second GPU (e.g. AMD APU and Intel iGPU like the gaming K processors already have one, F processors don't). Then set up loginctl. Reboot. Try logging in.