Blumenkrantz Seeks Clear Policy How Wayland Protocol Changes Can Be Rejected

[QwertyChouskie]

Care to link to any of these public bribe campaigns? I could use the money.

Count me in too! Currently rewriting a python-based utility from Tk to GTK4+libadwaita. Free money for something I'm already doing anyways sounds nice!

[access]

Care to link to any of these public bribe campaigns? I could use the money.

[hf_139]

Nothing is stopping you so go right ahead. Perhaps then you'll stop showing up to complain in any vaguely GNOME related thread too; win win win.

I do also use gamescope, which is basically a fork of wayland, because it implements its own protocols on top of it. So there is indeed nothing stopping me.
You know who else uses this wayland fork? Every single gnomie who wants to run a game.

btw. i will keep trashtalking gnome as long as Gnomies are a pain for everyone else. If Gnomies would stay in their little corner, nobody would have an issue with them. But they publicly run campaigns where they try to bribe other projects to become gnome apps. Like their CSD compaign, that promotes an inherently insecure design.

[access]

You can't fix broken antiquated 18yo wayland.

Lets just fork it.
Then the Gnomies can NACK themselves all day long in their hugbox and the rest of the world can move on.
It's a win win

Nothing is stopping you so go right ahead. Perhaps then you'll stop showing up to complain in any vaguely GNOME related thread too; win win win.

[hf_139]

You can't fix broken antiquated 18yo wayland.

Lets just fork it.
Then the Gnomies can NACK themselves all day long in their hugbox and the rest of the world can move on.
It's a win win

[geerge]

Gotta say, as much as I encourage and thank mike for trying to tackle this, I think it's still not going to have the outcome he wants. Frog protocols seems like the better solution to me if only because the Wayland Protocol developers have proven they lack the definitions for "urgency" or "importance".

Maybe not, but worth a shot. Hats off to anyone willing to attempt to tackle FOSS politics, I barely have the stamina to read about it let alone have the mental to try and participate.

[QwertyChouskie]

https://www.supergoodcode.com/unsticking-the-very-sticky/

I'm cautiously optimistic about all the proposed governance changes this week. Let's hope they get approved rather than being bikeshedded

[Daktyl198]

Gotta say, as much as I encourage and thank mike for trying to tackle this, I think it's still not going to have the outcome he wants. Frog protocols seems like the better solution to me if only because the Wayland Protocol developers have proven they lack the definitions for "urgency" or "importance".

[Errinwright]

I have to admit that I am surprised this type of proposal wasn't made earlier by [anyone]. Satisfied with a Valve employee taking up arms for the gaming community.

[fitzie]

they are treating wayland-protocols like the un security council, everyone get's a veto and rarely does anything get any consensus. it should be more like an incubator. anyone with an idea is encouraged to discuss it, implement it, receive feedback. and if it has merit then it becomes promoted to one of those holy namespaces they once enough compositors implement it. nothing should automatically get into the protected namespaces just because the cabal wants to push it through, nor should something that's implemented by some large subset of compositors be held back because the cabal wants to bikeshed it for a decade or two.