Frog-FIFO-V1 Aims To Address Mesa's "Fundamentally Broken" Wayland Code

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Frog-FIFO-V1 Aims To Address Mesa's "Fundamentally Broken" Wayland Code

Joshua Ashton of Valve's Linux graphics team has opened a Mesa merge request to support a proposed "frog-fifo-v1" protocol for Wayland to address the matter of "FIFO is fundamentally broken under Mesa's Wayland WSI right now."..

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-frog-fifo-v1-MR

[emansom]

The starvation issues need more than just another Wayland protocol for a true fix. Mesa and the compositor need to communicate which buffers need the lowest latency, highest priority and which buffers can never enter BAR and need to retain in VRAM (e.g. all of the shell/desktop UI). Mesa needs a scheduler.

[curfew]

Finally those lazy whiners from this forum got their hands dirty.

[dayone]

Valve saving Linux again.

[jacob]

Finally those lazy whiners from this forum got their hands dirty.

This is Valve, not the whiners.

[Volta]

Valve saving Linux again.

Helping Linux desktop a lot. That's for sure.

[Volta]

if mesa passed intelligence test, then maybe be used for development of WDM drivers and Windows with some refurbishment could be used as first class citizen graphic stack with certification inquiry for Windows 10 non compliant devices. And if no-one in the class of hw vendors has full house of tested devices for such WDM drivers, mesa protocols is problem when http://catalog.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ is out of NASDAQ stock. This could be or not could be problem, but certification for WDM driver development is out of mind in Microsoft even with some CLA signed closed(need sign in for access) repo development on Github and only for those with interest or access for such devices or in inquiry. So some mesa intelligence test are required and if devices are DirectX native and certified for, why then some Windows 10+ development is problem ? Don't ask me, WDM Github, but Mesa is missing...

When comes to tests you have failed human verification, idiotic bot.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

if mesa passed intelligence test, then maybe be used for development of WDM drivers and Windows with some refurbishment could be used as first class citizen graphic stack with certification inquiry for Windows 10 non compliant devices. And if no-one in the class of hw vendors has full house of tested devices for such WDM drivers, mesa protocols is problem when http://catalog.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ is out of NASDAQ stock. This could be or not could be problem, but certification for WDM driver development is out of mind in Microsoft even with some CLA signed closed(need sign in for access) repo development on Github and only for those with interest or access for such devices or in inquiry. So some mesa intelligence test are required and if devices are DirectX native and certified for, why then some Windows 10+ development is problem ? Don't ask me, WDM Github, but Mesa is missing...

This LLM is improving .

[ZarathustraDK]

At this point, when Valve requests a feature in mesa, that's not a proposition to be considered; it's a decree we should be yearning to fulfill asap.

Not only does it make gaming better on linux here and now; but they've clearly also got future plans involving linux as it is that we're not privy to. Normally I'd treat such corporate secrecy with suspicion, but of all the companies out there that are not straight up Linux-shops, Valve exceptionally seems to "get" the symbiotic relationship a corporate entity can have with open source software, harnessing the benefits, not to mention giving back to the community.

[davidbepo]

on todays edition of wayland is a broken by design clusterfuck that still isnt fixed 15 years later: