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Quite frankly, I hope this doesn't get merged. We don't need to fragment wayland even more then it already is.
EDIT: Does anyone know if valve has been offered membership with wayland protocols? That seems like it would be the best route forwards considering how much work they have been doing. Or is it something like an application thing?Last edited by Quackdoc; 25 September 2024, 11:11 AM.
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Originally posted by curfew View PostFinally those lazy whiners from this forum got their hands dirty.
Also obligatory "Wayland works perfectly fine for me" shill bullshit comment. We can clearly see it works!
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Originally posted by ssokolow View Post
If you're gonna phrase it "on accident", you might as well be fully wrong and also use "by purpose".
X11 messy because of 40 years(i think its been that long) of stuff being added. Yet its still more functional with basic things than wayland at the moment.
So i would classify this "on accident". Wayland is new and the future, but its already messed up... ok ok maybe not already messed up, but still has long road ahead.
And don't get me wrong. There are things that wayland does much better than X11 does or X11 doesn't even support.
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Originally posted by xpander View Post
X11 messy because of 40 years(i think its been that long) of stuff being added. Yet its still more functional with basic things than wayland at the moment.
So i would classify this "on accident". Wayland is new and the future, but its already messed up... ok ok maybe not already messed up, but still has long road ahead.
And don't get me wrong. There are things that wayland does much better than X11 does or X11 doesn't even support.
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Originally posted by xpander View PostNot only that but there are more things to fix
-Global hotkey support
-Copy-paste between wayland and xwayland that doesn't break
-Drag and drop between applications is finnicky and not always working
-Window management with positions, geometry etc are lacking features.
Just to name some. Hopefully things get better faster. its been 15 years in development.
Lots of people use wayland just fine already. It depends on the needs i guess.
but for me its still a broken mess tbh.
After 16 years you have to figure it out by yourself from the docs like it's 1995. Thanks Wayland.
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Originally posted by cl333r View Post
Huh, they didn't even bother to write how to do it in their "wayland book", I wanted to implement it myself because QClipboard is broken under wayland in Plasma 6.1.5:
After 16 years you have to figure it out by yourself from the docs like it's 1995. Thanks Wayland.
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Originally posted by pokeballs View Post> Swapchain starvation caused by being required to stall for the 'frame' event. This leads to it only ever being possible to have 1 image in flight at a time, which starves the GPU of work and can lead to lower performance and stutters.
You can call that "huge gaping issues" all you want, but the reality is that X never really supported multiple displays (no VRR, no mixing frame rates...).
So Wayland is already a much better alternative in the world we currently live in.
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