UWSM Aims To Be A Universal Wayland Session Manager

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Features. Yes, all those amazing features. AI coming to your GNU/Linux desktop in due time, won't that be a joy? We all need to just bite the bullet now and build rigs with 256GB of ram for our glorious future.

Old used workstations with plenty of DIMM slots and inexpensive used DDR4 ECC for the win !

[Brittle2]

By requiring systemd, it's already not "universal".

it's is universal you can't make something like that without systemd lol

[rrveex]

Not yet ...

In the beginning no one tried to force anyone to use systemd either. How has that turned out?

How? You still have the option of not using Systemd. As long as this ecosystem is open, you'll always have that option. What are you so outraged about exactly? That things exist?

I agree. The only similar thing ("everybody" uses it, you have to) that I feel forced is smartphones. It's incomparably easier to stay systemd-free than to not own a smartphone. And smartphones are *evil*. systemd is just trendy... "hipsta" or whatever.

[andyprough]

Old used workstations with plenty of DIMM slots and inexpensive used DDR4 ECC for the win !

Right on cue, today's Windows news comes in - "Windows to add gobs of 'AI' to Explorer". https://www.osnews.com/story/138724/...i-to-explorer/

You think there isn't going to be any pressure to add mountains of AI to thunar and nautilus and dolphin? We've already got some proprietary always-online AI terminal emulator called "Warp".

[spicfoo]

Features. Yes, all those amazing features. AI coming to your GNU/Linux desktop in due time, won't that be a joy?

Yes it will be for those who want to use it. That's part of Free software. You just don't need to use it if you don't like that. Yes, it's amazing that you get all those alternatives for free.

[You-]

It's annoying to have to login before being able to connect remotely.

In this case gnome 46 is your friend. it has this exact feature.

[You-]

Going back on topic, what makes this "universal"?

Gnome already uses systemd to manage the session. AFAIK KDE does too. I note this software doesnt offer universal session management for these two, but for smaller independent compositors only.

[tildearrow]

So now we are going to need a bloated systemd/wayland manager running all the time? Pretty soon the average major distro desktop is going to be requiring 2-3 GB of ram at all times, above the bloated 1.5 GB or so that it already requires. The race against Windows to see who can push out the most obscenely obese desktop environments continues.

Why do you assume systemd, Wayland and UWSM have memory bloat?

[Brittle2]

Not yet ...

In the beginning no one tried to force anyone to use systemd either. How has that turned out?

it turned out that systemd is good and fixes so much linux desktop problems, that anyone who want a functional system today need it, why are you complaining about people choosing the best solution is beyond me tho...

[andyprough]

people choosing the best solution

I'm not currently using Void, but I would wager large sums of money that Void is faster and more efficient than anything you run. And Void definitely does not use systemd.

What has the "best solution" benefited you that you can tangibly measure? Other than being able to run Gnome and snaps?

By the way, my distro of choice, Trisquel, uses systemd, so I'm not even a hater, I'm a begrudging user of the slowest booting of all modern init systems.