UWSM Aims To Be A Universal Wayland Session Manager

[spicfoo]

spicfoo
sd_notify is GPL licensed. That's the problem.

sd_notify is a protocol. It doesn't make sense to say it is GPL licensed. Sure there are GPL licensed implementations but there are plenty of more permissive licensed implementations too. Systemd even hosts some of them including for node which is under MIT license and again it is a trivial protocol to implement.

[murlakatamenka]

I've quite content with greetd + tuigreet, KISS and works

[andyprough]

No? No one is forcing you to use this.

Not yet ...

In the beginning no one tried to force anyone to use systemd either. How has that turned out?

[andyprough]

for now and hopefully no compositors/environments will make it a hard dep

EDIT: s/distro/compositor

Hopefully, don't make me laugh.

Next month's Phoronix headline - "Gnome to require systemd-wayland, KDE investigating, XFCE puts it on the 25-year roadmap"

[clockwork]

Not yet ...

In the beginning no one tried to force anyone to use systemd either. How has that turned out?

How? You still have the option of not using Systemd. As long as this ecosystem is open, you'll always have that option. What are you so outraged about exactly? That things exist?

[andyprough]

That's likely going to happen over time anyway and users typically choose full featured desktop environments over running other much more minimalist Windows manager because they care more about the features rather than leaving memory unused on their desktops.

Features. Yes, all those amazing features. AI coming to your GNU/Linux desktop in due time, won't that be a joy? We all need to just bite the bullet now and build rigs with 256GB of ram for our glorious future.

[clockwork]

Features. Yes, all those amazing features. AI coming to your GNU/Linux desktop in due time, won't that be a joy? We all need to just bite the bullet now and build rigs with 256GB of ram for our glorious future.

*Old man yells at cloud*
Ahh things are changing! How dare things evolve?!

[andyprough]

How? You still have the option of not using Systemd. As long as this ecosystem is open, you'll always have that option. What are you so outraged about exactly? That things exist?

Clearly you are new here. I'm too tired of all the nonsense to even respond with the wall of text and 500 references that this question deserves.

[Beryesa]

Systemd is the "freeinit standard" you are looking for.

Well then we need multiple implementations I guess, will looks into that 👀
I meant more like init file spec, but let's see...

[intelfx]

Well then we need multiple implementations I guess, will looks into that 👀
I meant more like init file spec, but let's see...

systemd’s API docs are already written like standards. There is nothing preventing anyone from independently reimplementing them, and in fact this has been done several times for some parts of these APIs (see systemd-shim, elogind and such).

The problem, as usual, is that people who are actually capable of writing such an implementation see absolutely no point in doing so.