JetBrains Enabling Wayland Support For IntelliJ-Based IDEs

[dkasak]

Not really. Netbrains idea is kind of backwards. They're using Java instead of js electron. On desktop. Desktop Java is dead. Also they're using the local file system. The ide should be written in pure untyped js, and it should communicate with a node/mongo backed via a language server protocol (rest) using Json. The frontend should use tailwind css and react.js in 2023.

Hehe. Luckily the devs disagree with you ...

[david-nk]

Yeah, the 3D workspace switcher... Nice to show off, but an otherwise utterly useless feature. About as useful as the gazillion of animations available when closing or opening a window.

It's useful at least in trying to sell the idea of Linux to non-Linux people. Most of the public authorities around the world still use Windows PCs. A clean UI, well-rendered fonts, smooth animations and the like make for a good first impression. But those things are viewed by most of the OSS community as not only being low priority, but to have zero importance.

Things like the zoom feature on the other hand are actually extremely useful. Even now, a decade later, I sometimes try to zoom in on something only to realize every time that the feature no longer exists.

[Tuxee]

The year of the Linux desktop was around 2012 or so, I have little hope that things will get back to the first class desktop experience from back then, at least not in the next 20 years.
There was everything back then when Compiz was the standard, from 3d workspace switchers to arbitrarily being able to smoothly zoom in to any part of the screen and many other useful features.

Yeah, the 3D workspace switcher... Nice to show off, but an otherwise utterly useless feature. About as useful as the gazillion of animations available when closing or opening a window.

[caligula]

It is really starting to feel like the year of the linux desktop is upon us. Perhaps 2024 is the one?

Not really. Netbrains idea is kind of backwards. They're using Java instead of js electron. On desktop. Desktop Java is dead. Also they're using the local file system. The ide should be written in pure untyped js, and it should communicate with a node/mongo backed via a language server protocol (rest) using Json. The frontend should use tailwind css and react.js in 2023.

[david-nk]

It is really starting to feel like the year of the linux desktop is upon us. Perhaps 2024 is the one?

The year of the Linux desktop was around 2012 or so, I have little hope that things will get back to the first class desktop experience from back then, at least not in the next 20 years.
There was everything back then when Compiz was the standard, from 3d workspace switchers to arbitrarily being able to smoothly zoom in to any part of the screen and many other useful features.

[royce]

This is great news. They're really making a ton of progress. Looking forward to being able to test it out.

[cassiofb-dev]

It is really starting to feel like the year of the linux desktop is upon us. Perhaps 2024 is the one?

Maybe not, I went to build a client PC with RTX 4060 TI as he is a dev I tried to install some distros but only Alpine with Gnome gave video but it was software rendering. I think the year of Linux will be after NVIDIA gpus works well with Linux and even more on Wayland (most of the market share is NVIDIA sadly). For myself I play on Linux for more than a year now even windows exclusive titles.

Well, there are some things that can make year of Linux before NVIDIA:

1. AMD Hypr-RX would be amazing in Linux open source driver (AMD is already nice on Linux but I think they need more to get market share)
2. Intel making even better Linux drivers (they are kinda bad now but are improving a lot recently)
3. More companies focusing on Linux gaming like Valve

By the way, sadly I had to install Windows 11 Home Single Language for him 😭

[cen1]

It is really starting to feel like the year of the linux desktop is upon us. Perhaps 2024 is the one?

[rmfx]

It's a painfully slow adoption but it's good to see some more compliant softwares.

[justinkb]

Read this earlier on their blog. Did not see any concrete info on when this partial Wayland support will be made available to users, which I found odd. It's been known they were working on this for a while, what exactly is being announced now, if it's not that it's coming to users? That they're halfway done with the work?