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JetBrains Enabling Wayland Support For IntelliJ-Based IDEs

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  • Sonadow
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    Originally posted by yariv View Post

    I wonder, why do you think that the IDE should be written in pure JS (I guess as opposed to TypeScript)?
    Because the best and most popular code editor in the world happens to be...surprise surprise, VSCode which is using JS and Electron.

    Hell, the current Insider version of VSCode even allows establishing a local tunnel so that it can be used directly on a browser without having to go though vscode.dev. No need to worry about whether so-and-so toolkit supports Wayland or not.

    That's the direction I want to see IDEs go, and Microsoft is ticking all those boxes.

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  • caligula
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    Originally posted by ClosedSource View Post

    There are native cross platform UI toolkits in existence. Do we truly need to write desktop applications in JS and Java?
    Most native toolkits do not follow the write once, run everywhere principle. TBH modern Java app distributions also package all the platform dependent stuff. I guess the biggest advantage is that the high level application code (which usually contains most of the bugs) is fully portable. Makes it easier to test etc.

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  • elatllat
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    A non-LSP IDE,
    is not for me.

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  • ClosedSource
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post

    Not really. Netbrains idea is kind of backwards. They're using Java instead of js electron. On desktop. Desktop Java is dead. Also they're using the local file system. The ide should be written in pure untyped js, and it should communicate with a node/mongo backed via a language server protocol (rest) using Json. The frontend should use tailwind css and react.js in 2023.
    There are native cross platform UI toolkits in existence. Do we truly need to write desktop applications in JS and Java?

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  • yariv
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post

    Not really. Netbrains idea is kind of backwards. They're using Java instead of js electron. On desktop. Desktop Java is dead. Also they're using the local file system. The ide should be written in pure untyped js, and it should communicate with a node/mongo backed via a language server protocol (rest) using Json. The frontend should use tailwind css and react.js in 2023.
    I wonder, why do you think that the IDE should be written in pure JS (I guess as opposed to TypeScript)?

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  • darkbasic
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    They lost me as a customer years ago because of the unusable HiDPI mess. Hopefully this will improve it.

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  • nadro
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post

    Not really. Netbrains idea is kind of backwards. They're using Java instead of js electron. On desktop. Desktop Java is dead. Also they're using the local file system. The ide should be written in pure untyped js, and it should communicate with a node/mongo backed via a language server protocol (rest) using Json. The frontend should use tailwind css and react.js in 2023.
    I hope it was sarcasm from your side. If not, well...

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  • ResponseWriter
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    Originally posted by david-nk View Post

    Things like the zoom feature on the other hand are actually extremely useful. Even now, a decade later, I sometimes try to zoom in on something only to realize every time that the feature no longer exists.
    Maybe it's not exactly the same but Plasma has a 'Zoom' plugin in Desktop effects. Default key combo seems to be Meta+= and Meta+- keys.

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  • t1r0nama
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    Too damn late. I have switched to vscode loong time ago. It works on wayland great and also is much faster and comfortable then pycharm that i used to code in.

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  • discordian
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    Originally posted by david-nk View Post

    The year of the Linux desktop was around 2012 or so, I have little hope that things will get back to the first class desktop experience from back then, at least not in the next 20 years.
    There was everything back then when Compiz was the standard, from 3d workspace switchers to arbitrarily being able to smoothly zoom in to any part of the screen and many other useful features.
    Compiz was literally slapped on, Rendering of windows was dog slow (often did take seconds to resize them).
    Other than showing of by moving stuff around it was useless and the stupidest thing in a long while. "Wow my window now opens up with a 3d animation, that's totally worth having a delay of a roundtrip to the moon when typing"

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