Xfce's Wayland Compositor Code Continues Improving

[asriel]

Ironically it is actually the x-server developers who came up with the idea of Wayland, including contributors from kde and gnome.

New generation of developers with gaming in mind simply could not understand how X-server works - so decided to drop everything they do not understand (almost all not related to fast access to hardware needed for gaming).

[avis]

wayland is a freedesktop.org project.
freedesktop.org is the same organisation maintaining x11 and it is part of the X.Org Foundation.

That proves literally nothing.

[Toggleton]

If that is really all you use - then true, wayland is for you.

On my workflow is the only xwayland windows are steam, games and electron apps that run on ancient electron versions that has broken wayland support. No idea when steam will finally update it but for games it should get better in the long run some games already run wayland native (and there is a push to use wayland native in SDL)and wine wayland is worked on. With now over 25% of users from this gaming related site that use wayland, would i guess it makes with every month more sense to work on native versions. No big company did care for the few sway user that use wayland since years

[Anux]

Yeah, it's slowly going there. I think a XFCE user is not interested to have support for all the new features instant. Atleast I value the slow developement as it provides a stable interface for me.
Only thing I'm not so happy about is the mix of gtk versions, but it is somewhat acceptable :/

That proves literally nothing.

avis in full denial

[pracedru]

This is great news.
Looking forward to trying out XFCE on Wayland.

[Vistaus]

AFAIK Mir is dead.

Then why does Michael keep writing articles regularly about Mir updates?

[Vistaus]

honestly if all the developers who wasted their time on making wayland compositors had instead just grouped up and made a more complete protocol of their own instead (I remember laughing when MIR was made, I shouldn't have, it was a better idea than Wayland, it had to be, anything is a better idea than wayland), there wouldn't be any modern desktop environments still being devleoped for X11.

The reasons for developing wayland were correct~ish. But wayland is a worthless piece of shit.

A display protocol that nobody has managed to develop any complete environment on because it is too convoluted, poorly documented, poorly designed and just plain poorly made is worth less than nothing. If anything it owes all these developers years of their time that they've wasted trying to develop on it to such limited success.

Well, there's Arcan still and it's awesome. It even supports X11 and Wayland apps. The only issue is that there are no popular DE's that run *natively* on it.

[avis]

Then why does Michael keep writing articles regularly about Mir updates?

Michael also keeps posting about patches for new yet to be released hardware that no one on Earth except vendors themselves can test and use.

Mir is dead, period.

[avis]

avis in full denial

I asked for names, you provided nothing. Sorry, I trust solid data, not solid memes, myths and hearsay.

[Old Grouch]

Maybe it is time for Lennart Poettering to bring his well-known approach to contributing to software that uses the linux kernel and take on modifying Wayland to meet his standards?