Xfce's Wayland Compositor Code Continues Improving

[asriel]

Why not just merge efforts with MATE instead? They share a lot of the same goals.

Wayland support in MATE just sucks. Totally completely unusable. XFCE is way ahead. Unfortunately - MATE is may favorite in X11 world, but migrating to wayland I could not use it. Almost all software either not working at all or require Xwayland support. Not only require - but bady drain battery by this X11 wayland emulation.

So far I use xfce4 panel, whisker menu ( a bit patched - otherwise it grows with every pop-up), clock/weater applets, tray applet , and thunar - from XFCE, atril, eom and engrampa from MATE , wayfre as compositor and some command line tools assighed to keyboard shortcuts. And finally all this gives pretty nice environment that can be used.

[avis]

I to know how to do the things you say on Xorg I had to googling and it is like that for any new software I use.
The philosophy behind free and open source software is to tell people "stop complaining" "if you don't like it develop something you like BUT DO IT!, and but stop complaining".

I'm fine with Xorg. Wayland fans on the other hand have been trying hard to portray Wayland as a ready to use replacement for Xorg which it is not.

I however am not trying to convince anyone of anything, I just call things what they are, not what people want to believe they are. In short, I'm a cynic. Is this OK with the open source movement or it's also unacceptable?

[poncho524]

I still run xfce. I'm not interested in buggy Wayland compositors since I use my computer to do work.

I'd rather see xfce use/advance wlroots instead of rewriting their own. This is the main problem I have w Wayland; it's a half-solution.

[NateHubbard]

Such news are mixed bag for me. While certainly nice to see Wayland getting more traction, it's such a waste of human efforts.

I would agree with you, if this were about five years ago or more. But I've been using wayland daily for about that long, and I really don't have any issues.
Perhaps XFCE should have started working on wayland a long time ago.

[NateHubbard]

People in other threads here who claim "Wayland works for me" sound like typical Open Source fans who can be best described as egocentric megalomaniacs.

Hey, I'm just some guy that held out until sway could provide me with a fully functioning desktop. I don't see how that's egocentric or a megalomaniac.
If you have other needs and they are not being met on wayland by whatever you're using, that really isn't any reason to go around labeling everyone else.

[avis]

Hey, I'm just some guy that held out until sway could provide me with a fully functioning desktop. I don't see how that's egocentric or a megalomaniac.
If you have other needs and they are not being met on wayland by whatever you're using, that really isn't any reason to go around labeling everyone else.

Well said. Thanks for proving my point. And now I will disable notifications for these forums. I'm effing tired of this.

[woddy]

I would agree with you, if this were about five years ago or more. But I've been using wayland daily for about that long, and I really don't have any issues.
Perhaps XFCE should have started working on wayland a long time ago.

They couldn't do it because they were stuck on GTK2 which is not compatible with wayland, it's not much that XFCE is on GTK3.

[Myownfriend]

The spec was released like 15 years ago

That was the date of the initial commit. The client and server protocols weren't considered stable until about 5 years later. It wasn't really until that point that toolkits and compositors could start working on implementing it and it was another few years before compositors actually started to claim support for the protocol.

[Myownfriend]

Life's good:

I have no idea why always make this shit public. Who cares, birdie?

[Myownfriend]

I'm fine with Xorg. Wayland fans on the other hand have been trying hard to portray Wayland as a ready to use replacement for Xorg which it is not.

I however am not trying to convince anyone of anything, I just call things what they are, not what people want to believe they are. In short, I'm a cynic. Is this OK with the open source movement or it's also unacceptable?

Old school birdie is slowly coming back lol