Wine Wayland Driver Takes Another Step Closer To Mainline

[MorrisS.]

When is it scheduled the ending of the complete transition to Wayland?

[Myownfriend]

Yeah, apart from Minecraft, I haven't heard about other even remotely popular Java apps. Btw, some people actually managed to run Minecraft natively on Wayland.

It's not popular but I use an application called yEd Graph Editor that's Java-based. Doesn't feel like it's getting an hardware acceleration.

[shmerl]

When is it scheduled the ending of the complete transition to Wayland?

For me Wine was big a outlier after Firefox started supporting Wayland quite well. Everything else works on Wayland for the most part. May be VLC too, though lately I use mostly mpv which supports Wayland fine.

You still need XWayland for some old native games, but for games that use SDL you can force Wayland display driver usually.

[luno]

Great! Wine and Electron are probably the only 2 platforms left for pure Wayland experience, and they're slowly getting there.

Electron alreadys works unless you are using app which uses outdated electron version

[intelfx]

Electron alreadys works unless you are using app which uses outdated electron version

(which is basically all of them)

[Weasel]

Can't wait for people to start whining "why doesn't FEATURE/APP work? When is it gonna be implemented?" with the answer "never, Wayland doesn't allow you to" that they can't accept.

[oiaohm]

(which is basically all of them)

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron

Electron is it own level of hell. Yes multi versions do support Wayland big nightmares
1) packaging comes important. Electron is in enbedded in particular applications with electron configuration locked.
2) Between versions different settings are need to make Wayland work ins the same file under the same section.

Getting electron applications to work more than one with elextro can be welcome I need to sandbox this so this one can see only the configuration file I need or I need to specially cut out the included electron.

[oiaohm]

Can't wait for people to start whining "why doesn't FEATURE/APP work? When is it gonna be implemented?" with the answer "never, Wayland doesn't allow you to" that they can't accept.

This is going to be a very short list of applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-MK72Kyp8

Majority of applications that wine supports does need any portal restricted feature that has been found in the 2022 work.

Then a majority of applications that need a portal or accessibility supported features have Linux native versions that have wayland version that already works.

Weasel portals and accessibility are over dbus. Xtest replacements have been done as a combination of accessibility and portals. Without setting a polkit auto authentication there are 3 authorizations required to perform Xtest actions.

Yes 2 biggest problems left are getting wayland compositors that the can crash and restart and nothing happens to the users desktop. Followed by completing out the final bits of accessibility functionality. These are not wayland protocol work.

Big important difference with the early dogtail prototype on wayland done by gnome it had the important behavour that generated input events could only go to the targeted application. Fun of the portals remote desktop protocol being able to target a window. XTest under X11 does not have targeted delivery.

Weasel there is going to be the reverse as well were person is using X11 and a feature is missing because it only works with Wayland compositors with xdg desktop portals and wayland updates accessibility interfaces.

[DMJC]

How will WINE on Wayland handle 256 / 16-bit / 24-bit / 32-bit colour modes? on Xorg 16-bit colour games aren't handled very well. You have to restart X11 into 16-bit colour mode or run a Xephyr instance. Will the WINE Wayland driver handle this?

[Weasel]

This is going to be a very short list of applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-MK72Kyp8

Majority of applications that wine supports does need any portal restricted feature that has been found in the 2022 work.

Doesn't matter how many apps there are, what matters is how much they're used.

Like AutoHotkey. Plenty of people use it to scan the screen for pixels/images so they can automate stuff. Deal with it.