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  • Eirikr1848
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    Just wanted to throw this here, as someone had asked if anyone uses UBPorts. This is a Huawei Nexus 6P - mostly used for SSHing into other machines... honestly waiting for 20.04 before using it more actively with my test SIM.
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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by Papicha View Post
    zZzZzZZZzzzzz...
    Wake up, this isn't the old Mir Mir. This is the Wayland Mir.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Are they aware which year it is and that a new LTS came out already?
    They can't just skip 20.04. They *have* to move to 20.04 in order to move to 22.04 more quickly. It's kind of like the GTK transition: GTK 2 to 3 is usually not so easy, but from 3 to 4 is a lot less painful. But going from 2 to 4 is usually a bit too much.
    It's the same on other platforms, really. You can ship a device with Android 10, but the developers can't go from 10 to 12 directly.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Eirikr1848 View Post

    Wlroots works great with PostMarketOS for example but won’t work on Ubuntu Touch which relies on the Halium abstraction layer to use a downstream kernel instead of mainline — and relies on Mir
    Depends on the device. Some UT devices use mainline.

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  • Eirikr1848
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    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Canonical themselves don't.


    Are they aware which year it is and that a new LTS came out already?
    1) UBPorts Ubuntu Touch is downstream of Ubuntu, similar to Mint, and has a fairly active community. I would not expect Canonical to use Linux Mint nor would I expect them to use UBPorts UBTouch.

    2) Volla Phone and Fairphone both have the option to ship w/Ubuntu Touch

    3) As I mentioned: they were unable to move past 16.04 due to lack of Mir on Wayland support. As phones are small iot devices: the change today effects them as well - essentially allowing the project the massive leap forward that they have needed.

    4) Why the hate to downstream Ubuntu variants? Linux Mint is solid - and I mean Ubuntu itself is downstream of Debian. Just embrace that another open source project finally is able to move to its next milestone: especially one that provides increased usability and security compared to remaining on outdated Android builds.

    (Security patches are backported to 16.04)

    EDIT: is more user choice a bad thing?
    Last edited by Eirikr1848; 27 August 2022, 01:40 AM.

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  • Awesomeness
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    Originally posted by rabcor View Post
    Does anyone even use this? has anyone ever even used it?
    Canonical themselves don't.

    Originally posted by Eirikr1848 View Post
    UBPorts uses Mir for Ubuntu Touch. The upgrade from a 16.04 base to a 20.04 base was put on hold until Canonical updated Mir with Wayland support.
    Are they aware which year it is and that a new LTS came out already?

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  • theriddick
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    I honestly wish Plasma would move their kwin to wlroots so it would enable use of some of the 'extra' features like gamma control since full display control still seems years away....

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  • Eirikr1848
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    Originally posted by rabcor View Post

    I mean we already have wlroots, every competing standard complicates software development for wayland (e.g. less software will work on wayland in the end cuz not everyone's gonna bother with developing for like 5 different standards between maybe 8 different compositors.)
    Wlroots works great with PostMarketOS for example but won’t work on Ubuntu Touch which relies on the Halium abstraction layer to use a downstream kernel instead of mainline — and relies on Mir

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  • Eirikr1848
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    Originally posted by rabcor View Post
    Does anyone even use this? has anyone ever even used it?
    UBPorts uses Mir for Ubuntu Touch. The upgrade from a 16.04 base to a 20.04 base was put on hold until Canonical updated Mir with Wayland support.

    This is HUGE NEWS for UBPorts supporters, fans, developers and users!

    Might actually get EGL support and “classic apps” such as Firefox, etc, working without a Libertine container! Time to bring out my Nexus 6P again

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  • rabcor
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    Originally posted by hamishmb View Post
    Seems like duplication of effort to me. They should just use an existing Wayland compositor.
    I mean we already have wlroots, every competing standard complicates software development for wayland (e.g. less software will work on wayland in the end cuz not everyone's gonna bother with developing for like 5 different standards between maybe 8 different compositors.)

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