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  • Weston 11.0 Alpha Released With Many Improvements For This Wayland Compositor

    Phoronix: Weston 11.0 Alpha Released With Many Improvements For This Wayland Compositor

    Weston 11.0 Alpha is out as the newest feature milestone for this reference Wayland compositor that has seen quite an uptick in development activity this year...

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Weston-11.0-Alpha

  • #2
    Is this surprising to anyone? With Mutter and wlroots surpassing Weston in every regard and Weston loosing its title as the official reference compositor. Microsoft is the one last major user of Weston.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
      Is this surprising to anyone? With Mutter and wlroots surpassing Weston in every regard and Weston loosing its title as the official reference compositor. Microsoft is the one last major user of Weston.
      No one has really ever used Weston outside of IV iirc.

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      • #4
        Why removing launchers???
        Why removing systemd-logind support??
        I can't get it

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        • #5
          Looks to me like Microsoft is grabbing the "reference" that no-one uses for free and mends it their own ways, making it even less attractive for other parties and reusing it for their own purposes, probably saying everyone "we adopted and impreved the Standard Reference. While all the others lost their way we stood true to the Original and improved upon it." or some BS like that. EEE.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by reba View Post
            Looks to me like Microsoft is grabbing the "reference" that no-one uses for free and mends it their own ways, making it even less attractive for other parties and reusing it for their own purposes, probably saying everyone "we adopted and impreved the Standard Reference. While all the others lost their way we stood true to the Original and improved upon it." or some BS like that. EEE.
            This is open source, everyone is well welcome to contribute or fork. Your post smells of desperate illogical ugly hatred based on the fact that none other than Microsoft has contributed to the project. But the project is not governed or controlled by them, which means its original maintainers have endorsed the changes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by reba View Post
              Looks to me like Microsoft is grabbing the "reference" that no-one uses for free and mends it their own ways, making it even less attractive for other parties and reusing it for their own purposes, probably saying everyone "we adopted and impreved the Standard Reference. While all the others lost their way we stood true to the Original and improved upon it." or some BS like that. EEE.
              That is not the case. Or you have any proof of the behavior you describe? Or you are only speculating based Microsoft behavior from 20 years ago; now it is a very different company.
              Microsoft is helping fixing real bugs, some of which have already been fixed in other compositors. Typical multiplication of work caused by Wayland, as every improvement has to be implemented many times.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by q2dg View Post
                Why removing launchers???
                Why removing systemd-logind support??
                I can't get it
                launcher-logind: Remove systemd-logind support

                Many years ago (2014) systemd-logind was brought into libsystemd. We've supported old versions of systemd-logind ever since. Let's remove support for old versions of systemd-logind before the merge for a tiny code simplification.
                It's not so much as they removed support for systemd-logind as they switched to just checking for libsystemd since nowadays having libsystemd version 209 or higher also implies having logind available.

                launchers: remove launchers

                Moving forward we're going to be supporting libseat and logind as our only launchers. We're doing this to reduce our maintenance burden, and security impact. Libseat supports all our existing use cases, and seatd can replace weston-launch so we no longer have to carry a setuid-root program. This patch removes weston-launch, and launcher-direct, leaving only libseat and logind.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
                  Is this surprising to anyone? With Mutter and wlroots surpassing Weston in every regard and Weston loosing its title as the official reference compositor. Microsoft is the one last major user of Weston.
                  That's simply wrong. Weston is great in the embedded space where maximal use of the display hardware (i.e. overlay planes etc.) is mandatory as GPUs are too weak. And Microsoft is by far not the biggest contributor - AFAIK Collabora is.

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                  • #10
                    It's great to see MS continue to devote resources to WSLg. We'll just have multiple Wayland compositors out there. Now if only apps would hurry up and move away from reliance on xwayland.

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