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Fedora 34 KDE Spin Planning Switch To Wayland
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Originally posted by Numeric View PostI wish the Fedora KDE the best of luck on this transition. I have been using Plasma + Wayland + Mesa on Arch for about two years. The experience has been one of stability improvements and functionality increases to the point where it now feels weird for me to use an X11 session. Which is very strange to say after a decade in Linux! Hopefully, upcoming techs like Pipewire will help solve a few of the missing functionality gaps.
My advice for using those considering Wayland with Plasma: 1) only use distributions with current or near current versions of Plasma (arch, manjaro, fedora, tumbleweed), 2) stick to using AMD or Intel GPUs with Mesa as the driver, 3) use wayland from a fresh boot (jumping back and forth between Wayland and X11 sessions can sometimes trigger issues with sddm). 4) Watch out on very old home directories that contain very old kde .config files 5) Enjoy super fluid window movement (very noticeable on a 144hz monitor)!
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Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post
6- if you are a gamer, forget wayland and xwayland.
Edit: For clarification, I ran Mesa + X11 for 1.5 years on my main gaming rig. Tearing was less than with Nvidia's blob, but still not perfect especially on monitors above 75hz.Last edited by Numeric; 09 September 2020, 11:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post
Obviously I was not referring to the development of the kernel, among other things Microsoft works basically on what concerns the Azure platform. But an operating system is not just the kernel ... then if you want to compare Canonical to Microsoft oh well ... but even if you do you should know that Canonical doesn't care about the desktop, just like Red Hat or SUSE doesn't care, they certainly help in a consistent way because it suits them too, but they certainly don't invest what Microsoft invests in Windows. Business in Linux is certainly not the desktop!
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Originally posted by SilverFox View Post
Firstly, I wasn't comparing Canonical to Microsoft, That is purely your assumption. Secondly, I'm well aware there are other compnent's that make up a desktop, But thanks for the school lesson. To say the big companies don't care about the desktop is pure bollocks. Paid engineers are actively putting in patches, Making improvements to the desktop side on Linux. Chromium, Visual studio, Firefox, Thunderbird, System d, Mesa, Wayland - etc, etc have had code submitted by those company's that don't care about the desktop. If it's new features your talking about, That's down to the group heading a project and whether or not, Improvement's get implemented.
I did not write that companies do not make any contribution to the desktop in Gnu / linux, I just pointed out that their priorities are other, as it should be, most of the projects are managed by communities, not by companies and I I'm referring to GNU projects not the kernel.
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Just tried KDE Plasma + Wayland for the first time in a few months... I'm running Kubuntu 20.04 and the KDE Plasma version looks to be 5.18.4... So far, pretty stable. Seems virtualbox was fixed (there was an issue with Wayland where it would run as a Wayland clients but make calls to X, causing it to crash immediate IIRC).
Seems like it is indeed time for Fedora to switch KDE to use Wayland as default from my limited experience. Especially once KDE Plasma 5.20 comes out with all of its Wayland fixes.
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