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  • #11
    Firefox and Chrome still don't officially support Wayland yet.
    Wayland supports works pretty good in Firefox nightly though.

    GIMP still is on GTK 2. They are working on GTK 3 support though.
    VLC still does not support Wayland, they still on VLC 3, but working on VLC 4.

    Electron is based on Chromium, hence does not support Wayland yet either. So all Electron-based apps such as Atom, Spotify, Skype, VS Code, etc.

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    • #12
      I think the tide will turn with Wayland once an Ubuntu LTS turns it on by default. Have Canonical said what they're going to do with 20.04 in this regard?

      Once that happens I think it'll be incumbent on programs to support Wayland by virtue of the amount of hassle they'll get from users who complain and/or raise bugs that are to do with not being Wayland native. At that point I think the cost/benefit analysis of whether to devote resources to supporting Wayland will push devs to invest the effort. They'll be a few holdouts I'm sure, but on the whole I think Wayland will start to be the default target and X.org usage will start to decline fast.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by kaprikawn View Post
        I think the tide will turn with Wayland once an Ubuntu LTS turns it on by default. Have Canonical said what they're going to do with 20.04 in this regard?
        https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ault-20.04-LTS
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        • #14
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          Firefox and Chrome still don't officially support Wayland yet.
          Although some distros have been shipping Firefox with wayland support for a bit now.

          As I recall the issue with chromium is that while ozone/wayland is reasonably mature, there is still work to do on migrating X11 to ozone/X11, and Google wants to be able to ship a single version (not one that uses the legacy X11 support, and a different that uses ozone/wayland, there will only be ozone moving forward).

          When the ozone/X11 work is finally ready and released the various electron based apps should be able to take advantage of that capability. Google has suggested that ozone/X11 is a priority. Of course, release schedules are unknowable.



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          • #15
            Until it starts working with nvidia cards, wayland will remain an unusable joke

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            • #16
              Tried Manjaro + KDE on wayland (on nvidia, so wasn't expecting much). It actually worked really really well. I can't describe how much I've missed mixed DPI handling, it has always bothered me with X11 that I can't use a 1080 and 4k screen together with different scaling on each, but even that worked beautifully. The rendering itself seems 99% fine, there still are some very minor kinks and some software that needs updates, but really coming together now. I switched back to X11 for now, but that was mostly due to issues with vulkan under wayland.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
                Until it starts working with nvidia cards, wayland will remain an unusable joke
                Well, if you are running a leading edge distro, the combination of wayland and nvidia does work, for at least some use cases, so that would mean your joke no longer remains.
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                Last edited by CommunityMember; 29 December 2019, 03:10 PM. Reason: correction of minor typo

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by stingray454 View Post
                  Tried Manjaro + KDE on wayland (on nvidia, so wasn't expecting much). It actually worked really really well. I can't describe how much I've missed mixed DPI handling, it has always bothered me with X11 that I can't use a 1080 and 4k screen together with different scaling on each, but even that worked beautifully. The rendering itself seems 99% fine, there still are some very minor kinks and some software that needs updates, but really coming together now. I switched back to X11 for now, but that was mostly due to issues with vulkan under wayland.
                  Just out of curiosity, what sort of issues do you see with Vulkan and Wayland?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                    ..And today RHEL default to wayland.
                    Server users around the world, rejoice!

                    no wait.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
                      Until it starts working with nvidia cards, wayland will remain an unusable joke
                      Your issue is using NVIDIA

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