GNOME 3.34 Works Out Refined XWayland Support For X11 Apps Run Under Sudo

[bkor]

I don't really care about Gnome existing

The very lengthy comment in a GNOME article already indicated that.

[Guest]

It may not be the best thing from the security standpoint, but I've been using the following script for a few years to run sudo apps in XWayland on gnome shell, including synaptic:

$ cat ~/bin/sugo
#!/bin/bash
echo '$@='$@

[ -n "$1" ] || exit 0
xhost si:localuser:root
sudo $@
xhost -si:localuser:root

Save that, make it executable, and you can then run

sugo synaptic

Are you sure that this trick is related to Wayland/XWayland? Me too need to type that command to launch Synaptic, and I'm surely using Xorg.

[kpedersen]

kpedersen welcome to 2019. 2-in-1s is a thing....

Haha. No it isn't.

[SWY1985]

That's what OnBoard is for.

But OnBoard does not work on Wayland, and it misbehaves on X.

[Wojcian]

V1tol I tested GNOME 3.34 beta on super crappy hardware. Works surprisingly well.

It's hardly usable on desktop, so your claims have to be verified.

[phoenk]

It's hardly usable on desktop, so your claims have to be verified.

As a Linux user with a touchscreen, I can vouch that Gnome is currently the best DE we have for touch users. It is also pretty good for normal laptop use as well, supporting a good number of trackpad gestures and a ton of configurable keyboard shortcuts.

[pal666]

Yeah. It's always puzzled me that, when people try to foist UIs designed for desktop PCs on mobile devices, reception is cool at best but, when they try to do the opposite and cripple or de-optimize desktop UIs to be comfortable on touch devices, we're somehow supposed to be happy.

it's always puzzled me how so many people are unable to distinguish ui from protocol

[ssokolow]

it's always puzzled me how so many people are unable to distinguish ui from protocol

If you're talking about Wayland vs. Weston, I agree.

Otherwise, I think you've misunderstood me. I'm looking forward to Wayland once there's a protocol in place for allowing the applications in a session to recover from a compositor crash or restart. My issue is with GNOME 3.x's UI direction, regardless of whether it's running on X11 or Wayland, and the knock-on effects of pushing those decisions into all the other applications and desktops which depend on GTK+.

[Britoid]

It's hardly usable on desktop, so your claims have to be verified.

It's perfectly usable on the desktop, it's just a different desktop paradigm. If you're used to a Windows-esque workflow (KDE, Windows, LXQt etc) you're going to find it different and somewhat alien.

I would drop GNOME if they switched to a Windows-style workflow, so I'm glad they're not.

[finalzone]

It's hardly usable on desktop, so your claims have to be verified.

I can back up the poster's claim as I just type this message from Gnome Shell 3.32 running on Fedora 30 using touch-screen HP Envy x360 Ryzen 15 2500u and a stylus. In fact, Gnome Shell can run on a 2007 Core Duo powered Tablet PC with lighter applications.