Wayland's Weston Lands A Pipewire Plug-In As New Remote Desktop Streaming Option

[Guest]

Wayland by itself may be nice, but on GNOME, I have no idea how people consider its Wayland session usable with the mouse cursor not on its own thread... Feels like I'm using a software cursor, and the slightest bit of high CPU or GPU usage hitches it.

[Berniyh]

In what way Wayland is superior to x11 (or Xorg)? I don't think it is superior.

Apart from maturity it's hard to be inferior to Xorg.

[Weasel]

Wayland is technologically superior to x11 in almost every way.

Please, you can't even query absolute window positions by design. You don't need more to know Wayland belongs in the dumpster.

[boxie]

In what way Wayland is superior to x11 (or Xorg)? I don't think it is superior.

"Every frame is perfect" <-- that's one of the wayland mantras, because X11 cannot do it
Security is a founding design principal

[boxie]

I can be wrong but I remember hearing on Linux Action News from the PipeWire dev that it's gonna be a PulseAudio and JACK wrapper, not a replacement.

IIRC there is a pulseaudio api, so that pulse audio apps can continue just using it (same with jack)

[boxie]

Please, you can't even query absolute window positions by design. You don't need more to know Wayland belongs in the dumpster.

I am curious to know why you need (as a client app) to know where other application windows are? Surely that is the sole care of the window manager is it not?

[starshipeleven]

The future of 10 years ago !

Still better than the future of 30+ years ago, FYI

[starshipeleven]

I can be wrong but I remember hearing on Linux Action News from the PipeWire dev that it's gonna be a PulseAudio and JACK wrapper, not a replacement.

You heard wrong, PipeWire has a "fake PulseAudio" plugin to run applications expecting Pulse.
For Jack, it's more complicated https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/wiki/JACK

[starshipeleven]

In what way Wayland is superior to x11 (or Xorg)?

Every way.

[starshipeleven]

beside being feature superior as user microcode already answered, X11 is a nightmare concerning security

"nightmare" in this specific case means "every application knows EVERYTHING you type and can see EVERYTHING that is on the screen"