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Originally posted by shmerl View Post
You can, because Nvidia ignores Linux. It's not the job of compositor developers to clean up the mess that Nvidia created. I have no respect for Nvidia and their practices, but if you are buying their hardware with broken drivers - do it at your own risk. That's my point. Developers should not support that in Wayland case.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View Post
As much as I love X, networking should not be a part of your windowing system, and solutions like VNC are the right way to go.
There is not network, no protocol but it still provides Xlib compatibility.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostMy "Wayland itch" is Wayland itself, and the solution to it would be to get rid of the whole thing entirely. X is the killer app of proper u*ix systems, and without it, operating systems such as macOS might start looking competitive, especially considering how Poettering has a boner for their design and tries to change the userspace to become a clone of macOS.
I think a better solution than Wayland would be to remove unnecessary features from X (like networking among other things) and make it more maintainable. Enforcing hardware acceleration isn't that great of an idea, while X allows to change compositors on the fly. I like my display with low input latency, VSYNC is better enabled on a per-application basis. I remember wasting like an hour to get compton to work the way i wanted it to just to see that it provides me no benefit and worse performance. Not everyone drags windows on top of each other all the time.
At this point it's simply better to come up with a clean solution to a lot of issues that we have with X11 then to simply keep repairing it, because refactoring all of the code would take a lot of time and you would be forced to break a lot of stuff. Which in many ways Wayland is.
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Originally posted by DanL View Post
It's delusional to think you can ignore Nvidia users, especially when AMD doesn't have equivalent products in the higher end. Maybe you can call Nvidia an outlier when it comes to Wayland, but calling the hardware defective is wishful thinking from an Nvidia hater.
Also new Radeon cards are on their way, even if they are rumoured to be to be less impressive than the first rumours out there.
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Originally posted by DanL View Post
It's delusional to think you can ignore Nvidia users, especially when AMD doesn't have equivalent products in the higher end. Maybe you can call Nvidia an outlier when it comes to Wayland, but calling the hardware defective is wishful thinking from an Nvidia hater.
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No X2go (or any NX protocol) support. Another solution for a problem that didn't exist. I still stick with KDE + Xorg + Compiz and I have no need to switch.
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Originally posted by shmerl View PostIt's actually something that can be ignored, since users have the option of getting Wayland compatible hardware (and Nvidia can be treated as defective hardware and outlier case).
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