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  • #11
    I love the minimalist and super functional DE at the ~2:30 mark. The colours and visual design is pleasing and not complex.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by StarterX4 View Post
      A stupid question: Why everyone develops only i3-like WMs for Wayland? Why still there's no any OpenBox/Fluxbox/PekWM-like WM? :v
      Just a wild guess, but perhaps the people developing i3-like WMs have both the skills to develop a WM and prefer the cross-section of features in i3?

      AIUI, Mr. Devault simply showed up and did the work for sway (and wlroots) and in the process of doing so, attracted numerous other developers.

      It is entirely possible that OpenBox et al. might not have the same pull/mindshare and that, by extension, nobody has bothered enough to want to reimplement them for Wayland?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by StarterX4 View Post
        A stupid question: Why everyone develops only i3-like WMs for Wayland? Why still there's no any OpenBox/Fluxbox/PekWM-like WM? :v
        There is a WIP which is explicitly trying to be Openbox-like: https://github.com/wizbright/waybox

        (Shameless plug) There is also this compositor which I'm the primary dev: https://github.com/WayfireWM/wayfire It is already usable and is floating compositor, nothing i3-like. There are a couple of smaller projects using wlroots that are also not tiling, check out the wlroots wiki for a comprehensive list.

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        • #14
          When I hear Plan 9 I automatically think Godzilla movie.
          Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
          Ben Franklin 1755

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Hugh View Post

            What do you mean by "win3.1 style text editor"?

            Rob Pike worked on the University of Toronto's version of UNIX ed and the qed editor before creating sam. I assume that those informed his design of sam.
            I'm implying nothing about the lineage but simply referring to that GIMP-like windowing system most people only know from windows 3.11 nowadays. Functionality wise, Sam uses a cleaned up version of ed's command language with Ken's regular extensions in the same style you find in sed and Acme's Edit command.

            Anyhow, between plan9port's sam and acme you can pretty much get an idea of it all. And if you want a standalone Sam you can look here: https://github.com/deadpixi/sam

            Modern and popular tools wise, vis is good: https://github.com/martanne/vis

            Personally I feel there's room for a mature, plumbing, chording editor with complex text rendering and highlighters at the very least. Alas, there's an Emacs mode for those so no one will bother making it

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            • #16
              Interesting to see people not asking the obvious question: If every application runs its own compositor, what is it compositing?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by c117152 View Post
                I'm implying nothing about the lineage but simply referring to that GIMP-like windowing system most people only know from windows 3.11 nowadays.
                I don't really know what that means.
                Functionality wise, Sam uses a cleaned up version of ed's command language with Ken's regular extensions in the same style you find in sed and Acme's Edit command.
                Rob certainly thought "structural regular expressions" were an important new idea and they were at the centre of sam. http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/struc...regexps/se.pdf

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