Wayland's Current Release Manager Is Stepping Down, Following Samsung's Open-Source Drama

[Delgarde]

Debian has bad Packaging. that Gnome wiki link is Out of Date. i would of thought anyway , a lot of those links on the gnome wiki point to gnome bugzilla which they havent used in some time. perhaps you should email/contact the people on that page to update that, coz a lot of Gnome stuff is an does work on Wayland., Firefox works on Wayland, Thunderbird now does im pretty sure.

I doubt there'd be any interest from Gnome in updating that page... it's just a tracker used early in their Wayland support process (most of the bug reports date to 2013), not some official list of Wayland-compatible apps.

[Candy]

its Very old Code an getting to the point of unmaintainable.

For an old and unmaintainable code *they* (the maintainers and developers) were quite capable of entirely modularizing and modernizing the old monolithic code that XFree used to be.

[Nuc!eoN]

Disadvantages:
- It takes CSD to the extreme (basically forced to the point the client has to draw its own shadow)

Also, I would like to object on that pixel-perfect point.
Since 2016 I haven't seen a line of tearing when using a compositor in X.

WTF this has been mentioned so many times: Wayland doesn't enforce CSD nor SSD by it's protocol...

[Weasel]

I wonder why do you hate smartphones.

Because they are made for dummies. Almost everything about their software, from the UI design to the centralized crap stores to the full-screen software themselves, treats the user like a retarded monkey. Honestly it's probably what the users who love using them already are, so...

[Ironmask]

Do not panic, google helps: https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/Applications

The Debian Xfce desktop does not have a single of them. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/b.../amd64/iso-cd/

Xfce hasn't been updated in like 5 years, should we be parading how electric cars are dead because my 2008 Ford doesn't have a plug?

[Candy]

SystemD

[Raka555]

We don't need something new for that, as we already have that: it's called Arcan.

I am also cheering for Arcan.

Wish there was a distro based around it.
I had a look at Void, but the arcan packages seemed a bit bolt on and not ready for prime time.

Edit: Just to clarify my statement above. The fact that the distro's do not offer a live image or installer like they do for cinnamon, xfce etc leaves me with the impression that Arcan is not ready for prime time.

[Raka555]

Xfce hasn't been updated in like 5 years, should we be parading how electric cars are dead because my 2008 Ford doesn't have a plug?

I know distrowatch (https://distrowatch.com) is not the be-all-and-end-all, but it is interesting that the 2 top distro's there both have xfce as their main desktop atm ...

[Anvil]

I doubt there'd be any interest from Gnome in updating that page... it's just a tracker used early in their Wayland support process (most of the bug reports date to 2013), not some official list of Wayland-compatible apps.

yeah i know that but dickhead debianxfce doesnt understand that since he hasnt had his tablets

[Ironmask]

A hint to the religious people to prevent you looking stupid: check with google what you think to write.

Xfce 4.13 is ready and available.https://packages.debian.org/search?k...al&section=all

Recent Xfce activity: https://blog.xfce.org/

I actually prefer not to use Google, I prefer DuckDuckGo.

Or am I not allowed to use anything else except Google on top of not being allowed to not use anything except Xorg now?