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  • Wayland 1.17 Released With Updated Protocol & Other Improvements

    Phoronix: Wayland 1.17 Released With Updated Protocol & Other Improvements

    Wayland release manager Derek Foreman has officially announced the release of Wayland 1.17, the first official update since last August...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-1.17-Released

  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Have two sets of clipboards is confusing for many users. The benefit in favor of it is arguably weak.
    For me it is very useful. Sometimes I have a URL copied in one clipboard, and a piece of code in the other. I feel it's easier to just select a piece of text and being able to paste it somewhere with a middle click.

    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Yeah, that sucks the entire desktop goes down when the compositor crashes. I guess it would be good with a compositor written in Rust.
    Rust is also capable of crashing, although prevents many crashes.

    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    It is not just GNOME that don't want server-side decorations, I think Wayland have a architecture similar to Windows 10 and macOS.
    Both Windows 10 and macOS have SSD as well.

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  • uid313
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    Originally posted by Brisse View Post

    As a GNOME user, I can say this used to suck back when there were bugs causing compositor crashes, but these days it's 100% stable for me on three different systems currently on GNOME 3.30.2
    I experienced a freeze followed by a crash some weeks ago when I clicked on a URL in HexChat that was supposed to open in Firefox.

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  • Brisse
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Yeah, that sucks the entire desktop goes down when the compositor crashes.
    As a GNOME user, I can say this used to suck back when there were bugs causing compositor crashes, but these days it's 100% stable for me on three different systems currently on GNOME 3.30.2

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  • uid313
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    Can somebody implement a permission system on X please? I want to respond.
    I don't know.
    But in Wayland applications cant snoop on other applications.
    While on X.Org Server any application can listen on keystrokes intended for another application.

    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    X could also have this property.
    I don't think so. X have 30+ years of baggage.
    Wayland is very simple, its basically just a render context.

    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    Also, where's my middle click paste? Why does it take down my entire desktop when the compositor crashes? Can I have server-side decorations on every Wayland compositor? (if GNOME does not want so, it does not mean everyone has to follow)
    Have two sets of clipboards is confusing for many users. The benefit in favor of it is arguably weak.
    Yeah, that sucks the entire desktop goes down when the compositor crashes. I guess it would be good with a compositor written in Rust.
    It is not just GNOME that don't want server-side decorations, I think Wayland have a architecture similar to Windows 10 and macOS.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post

    It is more secure. Applications cannot spy on other applications.
    Perhaps it is more secure.
    Can somebody implement a permission system on X please? I want to respond.

    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Perhaps more light-weight. Perhaps less overhead.
    X could also have this property.

    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Perhaps renders smoother and less frame skips and jitter.
    My patched KWin also has this feature.

    Also, where's my middle click paste? Why does it take down my entire desktop when the compositor crashes? Can I have server-side decorations on every Wayland compositor? (if GNOME does not want so, it does not mean everyone has to follow)

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  • uid313
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

    You misunderstood my question.

    What I meant is, what are the benefits of using a Wayland compositor over X.Org? I asked that since you said "Also you lose some of the benefits of running Wayland", which implies Wayland has benefits, but I am not aware of any *real* benefits...
    It is more secure. Applications cannot spy on other applications.
    Perhaps it is more secure.
    Perhaps more light-weight. Perhaps less overhead.
    Perhaps renders smoother and less frame skips and jitter.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post

    Well, if I am going to run everything through XWayland, then whats the point of using Wayland. Then tha is just extra overhead, and I might aswayll just run X.Org Server instead.

    So for Wayland to be compelling, then the software that I most commonly use needs run native on Wayland.
    So for me, that is Firefox.
    You misunderstood my question.

    What I meant is, what are the benefits of using a Wayland compositor over X.Org? I asked that since you said "Also you lose some of the benefits of running Wayland", which implies Wayland has benefits, but I am not aware of any *real* benefits...

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  • uid313
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    Which are?
    Well, if I am going to run everything through XWayland, then whats the point of using Wayland. Then tha is just extra overhead, and I might aswayll just run X.Org Server instead.

    So for Wayland to be compelling, then the software that I most commonly use needs run native on Wayland.
    So for me, that is Firefox.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Also you lose some of the benefits of running Wayland
    Which are?

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