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A Look At The Wayland/Weston Development Stats For 2018

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  • A Look At The Wayland/Weston Development Stats For 2018

    Phoronix: A Look At The Wayland/Weston Development Stats For 2018

    This year was interesting for Wayland with the compositor support continuing to mature for both GNOME Shell and KDE Plasma, the smaller but very interesting i3-inspired Sway nearing its 1.0 release, NVIDIA working on EGLStreams support for the KWin compositor, and other advancements. But at the same time the year was unfortunate in that Samsung let go of their Wayland developers as part of their OSG restructuring, which had contributed heavily to the upstream project. Here's a look at Wayland/Weston 2018 by the numbers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...EOY-2018-Stats

  • #2
    Mutter as a wayland compositor works fine these days. The remaining x11 bits are about to get cleaned up and isolated.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
      Mutter as a wayland compositor works fine these days. The remaining x11 bits are about to get cleaned up and isolated.
      Just hope GNOME-Shell doesn't crash.

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      • #4
        It seems like the cleanup tasks are broken down to bite size chunks.
        https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/616

        Ideally everything should stay stable even at development releases.

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        • #5
          Has this project met even a single of its initial goals yet? What does it do better that xorg nowadays? Is it more performant, is it tear free, does it crash nowadays, does it use Vulkan or other APIs to offload rendering fully in GPU?

          I am not trolling here, just that I haven't tried it for a while, and last time round it was still a non-production toy. And the news are mostly the type - we're adding this brick, that feature. Is this converging somewhere, i.e., has it matured enough to be used carelessly by a grandma with KDE desktop and don't think about it at all?

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          • #6
            Wayland sessions work fine on Fedora Workstation and Ubuntu desktop

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            • #7
              Interesting. I thought uid313 would be repeating a bunch of the same questions for the nth time, but it seems like clavko has beat him to the punch this time lol

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              • #8
                It would be nice if Wayland would add a standard means to do application<-> server network transparency (app can display on another computer besides where it is running (over ssh). The other biggie is the need for a rootless wayland server that can run on an X server so wayland apps can be displayed to an X server. If these things were added I would be much more supportive of Wayland.
                Last edited by jpg44; 12-26-2018, 03:26 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by clavko View Post
                  Has this project met even a single of its initial goals yet? What does it do better that xorg nowadays? Is it more performant, is it tear free, does it crash nowadays, does it use Vulkan or other APIs to offload rendering fully in GPU?

                  I am not trolling here, just that I haven't tried it for a while, and last time round it was still a non-production toy. And the news are mostly the type - we're adding this brick, that feature. Is this converging somewhere, i.e., has it matured enough to be used carelessly by a grandma with KDE desktop and don't think about it at all?
                  Plus side:
                  • You can scale 2 displays independendly
                  • You can scale those displays with fractions (experimental for now)
                  • some messy stuff seems isolated, I have a game (Into the breach) lockup the X11 desktop when going fullscreen, with wayland only the game itself hangs
                  Negative:
                  • Desktop can be extreme sluggish, to the point where the applets (Menu, dash to dock) take seconds to react or forget mouse events. playing a youtube video is enough to trigger it.
                  • cant get X11 apps to correctly pick my primary screen (games do alot weird shit when I move them over), which usually means I have to deactivate the second screen.
                  • compatibility with apps
                  So pick your poison. If I had just one screen I would not look at it right now.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                    Just hope GNOME-Shell doesn't crash.
                    That's the exact reason I'm sticking with Gnome on X.org for my working machine.
                    Hopefully Gnome 4 would solve this problem.

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