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  • F.Ultra
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    Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
    WTF, I've been waiting for years for Wayland to come to the Linux desktop and it's still not ready, but they're already thinking to add DRM to it ?
    I thought that Linux and open source software was about freedom, but I see now that the freedom is fading with the huge Hollywood greed.
    Quote from the actual patch:
    This is not a way to implement any kind of Digital Rights Management on desktops.

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  • Danny3
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    If you're so pro-freedom, then why do you not give them the freedom to implement DRM?
    I am pro-freedom as long as it doesn't restrict my freedom.
    Giving them the freedom to implement DRM is like giving them the freedom to build a jail around me.
    So in this case is my freedom takes precedence before their freedom
    Or our freedom takes precedence before Hollywood or any other greedy group freedom.
    At least this is how it is supposed to be and I stand my ground to protect my freedom against any greedy group.

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  • shmerl
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    If you're so pro-freedom, then why do you not give them the freedom to implement DRM?
    That's a fallacy. If you are pro-freedom, you shouldn't agree with implementing police state approach.

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  • shmerl
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    Instead of implementing unethical DRM trash, let Wayland developers actually work on features useful for everyone that are severely missing. Did they already iron out standard protocol for screen capturing and screenshots? What about unified way to configure input across all compositors?

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  • Britoid
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    Originally posted by Mystro256 View Post
    I'm assuming this is for Google and their Chromebooks. People won't use Chromebooks if they can't watch their hi-def Netflix. As someone who's worked with Netflix, the movie studios' demands are ridiculous, and Netflix takes every precaution necessary to avoid contributing to piracy.
    Didn't Netflix state at some point that they're not particularly a fan of DRM, it's just that their license agreements with various studios require it?

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
    WTF, I've been waiting for years for Wayland to come to the Linux desktop and it's still not ready, but they're already thinking to add DRM to it ?
    I thought that Linux and open source software was about freedom, but I see now that the freedom is fading with the huge Hollywood greed.
    If you're so pro-freedom, then why do you not give them the freedom to implement DRM?

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  • plonoma
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    I would like a good permissions system for apps to avoid apps spying on me.
    Last I heard Wayland still hasn't good protocols for screenshots and screen recording.
    How is that going? Is this DRM issue due to protocol development around adding screenshot and recording functionality?

    Don't like DRM but if Wayland needs to span all the usual use cases, some way of interfacing with DRM will need to be standardized in protocol(s).

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  • Jabberwocky
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    Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
    WTF, I've been waiting for years for Wayland to come to the Linux desktop and it's still not ready, but they're already thinking to add DRM to it ?
    I've been using (X)Wayland on my laptop and workstation for over 2 years, so for my use case it's been ready for years.

    I thought that Linux and open source software was about freedom, but I see now that the freedom is fading with the huge Hollywood greed.
    Like boxie said you can still choose. For me that's another reason why I choose to stay away from Ubuntu. Many people prefer Ubuntu over something like Trisquel. I don't blame them, it's not easy or appealing to use libre systems at this point in time.

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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by boxie View Post

    you still have freedom, you can choose to use it or not. no need for hyperbole
    Uh what? No you don't choose it. Google added this so they can use it with Chrome. That means the closed source version shipping on ChromeOS (assuming they ever use Wayland) and the closed source version you download for Linux desktops (i.e google-chrome not chromium) will use this. In fact, even Chromium might have this enabled and turned on by default. Unless you're running Chromium, you don't have a choice as to whether or not this gets used.

    Main question is will they make it so that you need HDCP for watching any kind of copyrighted media? Netflix and Prime Video atleast play SD video through the browser without requiring Flash and other crap, but is Google planning to cut that off and only show if full verified HDCP support is present?
    Last edited by sandy8925; 19 November 2018, 11:27 AM. Reason: I added Chrome on Android earlier, but we're talking about Wayland so it was not applicable

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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by Britoid View Post

    Hollywood wants it, they don't care its stupid.
    Well, Hollywood seems to think that movies and TV shows are classified military and government secrets. That's why they need so much protection - I mean, imagine how many billions of people would die, and how badly messed up the world would be, if they weren't protecting copyrighted video and audio with such great ferocity.

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