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Wayland Protocols 1.17 Brings Explicit Synchronization & Primary Selection
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Much love for primary selection. It is a feature I miss dearly in Wayland applications. It is a seriously useful feature.
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Originally posted by rabcor View PostAlso if you were asking me to give examples of applications where I use autoscrolling... 'Office' software, (some)Instant Messaging, PDF readers, and although rare I sometimes use it in terminal emulators.
And no, you are not hearing me. You literally must have not even read what I wrote.
(Read the first half, read it very carefully, because I don't want to have to point it out a third time)
Yet you decided to just ignore that, of course I'd become hostile if you throw me exactly the bullshit I specifically asked not to deal with.
The fact that middle-click pasting can't be disabled through any simple means is not a non-issue. The fact that there is no proper implementation of autoscrolling in neither evdev nor libinput is also not a non-issue.
It might not be something you care about, but you are not the sum of everyone.
Middle-click paste might not be something you care about, but you are not the sum of everyone.
Also, I didn't say I don't care about autoscroll. As I have clearly established (are you reading properly?) I also use it regularly.
Anyway, if you really care so much about removing middle-click paste easily, use Wayland - it doesn't work there. Also in case you're not aware, middle-clicking on the scroll bar tends to be a much better alternative in most applications.Last edited by schmidtbag; 16 November 2018, 02:58 PM.
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Originally posted by ssokolow View Post
I got the impression that, when schmidtbag wrote "(and to my knowledge, autoscroll in Chrome can only be done through extensions)", the intent was to say "and, as far as I know, Chrome does something which breaks desktop-provided autoscroll, so you need an extension to overrule that."
Given what I've seen of Chrome's middle-click handling when developing web applications, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chrome has code which prevents auto-scroll from being triggered "because a web app might want to hang custom behaviour off the middle mouse button".
(Chrome is stupid that way. I have to explicitly write an "if it's not the left button, ignore it" check in my onclick handlers, while Firefox does the sane thing of reserving onclick (which is used for progressive enhancement of links) for left-clicks and letting people who want to customize the middle button use onmousedown and onmouseup instead.)
Originally posted by schmidtbagTo my recollection, most programs in Windows didn't allow autoscrolling without an extension either, so as far as I'm concerned, you're complaining about a non-issue and you are getting WAY too hostile over it.
Also if you were asking me to give examples of applications where I use autoscrolling... 'Office' software, (some)Instant Messaging, PDF readers, and although rare I sometimes use it in terminal emulators.
And no, you are not hearing me. You literally must have not even read what I wrote.
Originally posted by rabcor View Post(And don't throw bullshit at me like how I can enable autoscrolling in browsers with extensions, I use it outside of browsing too, occasionally)
Yet you decided to just ignore that, of course I'd become hostile if you throw me exactly the bullshit I specifically asked not to deal with.
The fact that middle-click pasting can't be disabled through any simple means is not a non-issue. The fact that there is no proper implementation of autoscrolling in neither evdev nor libinput is also not a non-issue. It might not be something you care about, but you are not the sum of everyone.
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Originally posted by rabcor View PostYou're not fucking hearing me, because I was not talking about stupid fucking extensions was I? is it possible to implement both? Probably. can I do that with a fucking bash script and xdotool? no fucking way.
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...77#post1060777
And yes, it is easy to enable both, without scripts. Since I first started using Linux over a decade ago, I figured out I could use both without having to configure anything.
To my recollection, most programs in Windows didn't allow autoscrolling without an extension either, so as far as I'm concerned, you're complaining about a non-issue and you are getting WAY too hostile over it.
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Originally posted by rabcor View Post
You're not fucking hearing me, because I was not talking about stupid fucking extensions was I? is it possible to implement both? Probably. can I do that with a fucking bash script and xdotool? no fucking way.
Given what I've seen of Chrome's middle-click handling when developing web applications, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chrome has code which prevents auto-scroll from being triggered "because a web app might want to hang custom behaviour off the middle mouse button".
(Chrome is stupid that way. I have to explicitly write an "if it's not the left button, ignore it" check in my onclick handlers, while Firefox does the sane thing of reserving onclick (which is used for progressive enhancement of links) for left-clicks and letting people who want to customize the middle button use onmousedown and onmouseup instead.)
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostNot true - I use both middle-click paste and autoscroll just fine (and to my knowledge, autoscroll in Chrome can only be done through extensions). All you have to do is just middle-click in a place that doesn't have a text input area. Middle clicking in general works fine in Linux in every application, you just get the added bonus of a secondary clipboard. As long as you're aware of this behavior, you'll prefer to have it. I personally find it frustrating to not have middle-click paste.
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Originally posted by M@GOid View PostThe copy/paste with middle button and change volume with mouse-wheel only are my preferred bragging things when talking Linux to Windows users.
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I too hate middle-click-paste. But you *can* actually disable it through GNOME Tweaks (or dconf-editor, whatever you prefer) and KDE System Settings. At least on X11, not sure about Wayland. But some apps are stubborn (I'm looking at you, Vivaldi) and ignore those settings.
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middle click paste is the only feature i noticed missing last time i tested plasma on wayland. Glad to see it fixed on protocol level.
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