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Wayland's Weston Is In Severe Need Of More Development Help
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Originally posted by rabcor View Post
While that is true, Weston is an important, maybe even vital part of wayland. It's supposed to be an example/reference compositor for others to use as a guideline to help them when they are developing their own, whether it be the first steps of development or somewhere along the way. In it's current state it seems to outright fail to do so.
Weston is a part of the Wayland project, as in officially speaking. It was always my understanding that they would have more or less the same developers. I imagine these developers have been too busy with wayland development to give weston any attention leading to the current situation, although I might be wrong.
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Originally posted by M@yeulC View PostWow, the Wayland haters are out in force today
I personally can't wait to get rid of X! Which I'll do once kwin + plasma will have agreed upon a protocol for the virtual desktop pager, and activities (though that's less important to me).
the wayland hate is everything but baseless
the only sane solution i see is for everyone to use mir for wayland, but mir gets even more hate than wayland itself, and this solution is sadly unlikely AF
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Wow, the Wayland haters are out in force today
I personally can't wait to get rid of X! Which I'll do once kwin + plasma will have agreed upon a protocol for the virtual desktop pager, and activities (though that's less important to me).
That situation with Weston seems to be quite hard to solve, as it's hard to review patches if you aren't a contributor already :/
Originally posted by Steffo View PostEveryone is implementing its own Wayland implementation... This is something what we have not seen in X and it's disturbing to me.
There is wlroots, though, as a library that provides common bits and pieces to implement compositors without too much work.
Edid: ninja'd on wlroots, though that's typically only used in "small budget" compositors, that implement classic desktop-type interactions, AFAIK?
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Originally posted by bug77 View PostKind of ironic considering this was supposed to be new hot, nimble thing to save us from the old, unmaintained Xorg.
And yes, I know this just the reference implementation, because one reusable implementation is also passe and now everyone gets to implement the same thing over and over again. And still not have feature parity
From the description of wlroots:
"Pluggable, composable, unopinionated modules for building a Wayland compositor; or about 40,000 lines of code you were going to write anyway."
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Originally posted by rabcor View PostWeston is a part of the Wayland project, as in officially speaking. It was always my understanding that they would have more or less the same developers. I imagine these developers have been too busy with wayland development to give weston any attention leading to the current situation, although I might be wrong.
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Originally posted by R41N3R View Post
The news mentions Weston, not Wayland as a protocol directly, so I wouldn't assume that this has an influence on the Wayland adoption of other compositors. I've switched away from X11 a long time ago. The open issues are usually in the toolkits, xwayland, compositors, browsers, applications, ...
Weston is a part of the Wayland project, as in officially speaking. It was always my understanding that they would have more or less the same developers. I imagine these developers have been too busy with wayland development to give weston any attention leading to the current situation, although I might be wrong.
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Since when is Weston supposed to have all this activity? I thought it was supposed to be a bare-bones POC compositor.
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Kind of ironic considering this was supposed to be new hot, nimble thing to save us from the old, unmaintained Xorg.
And yes, I know this just the reference implementation, because one reusable implementation is also passe and now everyone gets to implement the same thing over and over again. And still not have feature parity
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