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  • renox
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    Originally posted by CTown View Post
    The fact that Weston is not developed so heavily is a sign of its maturity.
    Maturity or lack of interest/money? Weston is far from being feature equivalent to X, AFAIK the remote window display was only a POC, I doubt that it is truly working.

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  • euler271
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    Originally posted by cipri View Post

    Nobody said that mir is better , I for myself dont know Mir in Detail, but I know libwayland-client and weston are exemplary pieces of crap. Should go in the hall of fame: how to write a piece of crap in 3 steps.
    Because of that crap that people struggled with, it took like 10 years and wayland is still not widely adopted. Who wants to contribute to crap? Crap I can write myself, I dont need to start learning and struggling to understand the crap of others. Go check the official pdf of the wayland documentation.... WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF.... was my reaction. It was a documentation that doesn't allow you to write to simplest wayland client. Should have been called fairy-tale, not documentation.
    can you please expand on this? maybe tell a more detailed description of your experience trying to learn how to work with wayland? I ask because Im really curious about this. If it's really such a piece of crap code(weston), I dont want to spend time learning how to help(which was my initial intention when I read this article)

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    Yeah G3 is bad by design, it is designed with premise how Desktop should be Phone just on Big Screen It works on premise as if people like their phones, then they will like this too - but that didn't happened

    Since Google with Android phones appeared and succeded they started to go crazy about all this W & G3





    Harassment free killer
    I'd be willing to bet real money on it that don't happen. 2023? Yeah right, that's just some Gnome fanboys wishful thinking. Gnome has no fucking clue what's in store for -themselves- in 2023 let alone KDE.
    Last edited by duby229; 04 November 2018, 06:48 PM. Reason: KDE

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by jpg44 View Post

    GNOME 3 is so bad, they have to force people to use it. I will never use RHEL then.
    Yeah G3 is bad by design, it is designed with premise how Desktop should be Phone just on Big Screen It works on premise as if people like their phones, then they will like this too - but that didn't happened

    Since Google with Android phones appeared and succeded they started to go crazy about all this W & G3





    Harassment free killer
    Last edited by dungeon; 04 November 2018, 05:24 PM.

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  • R41N3R
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    Yes, something like this, just a little less technical maybe for the normal user. But thanks, I've seen it before and I like it.

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  • jpg44
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    Red Hat investing into it and in GNOME, that is all of its points otherwise there is no points RHEL also have plan to deprecate KDE by 2024, etc...

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/1...eprecates_kde/

    Did Phoronix noted this? It seems he isn't or maybe i missed it
    GNOME 3 is so bad, they have to force people to use it. I will never use RHEL then.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by jpg44 View Post
    Whats the point in redoing the same features over and over again?

    What does wayland solve? Nothing. It does nothing we don't have with X or could not get by improving X.
    Red Hat investing into it and in GNOME, that is all of its points otherwise there is no points RHEL also have plan to deprecate KDE by 2024, etc...

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/1...eprecates_kde/

    Did Phoronix noted this? It seems he isn't or maybe i missed it
    Last edited by dungeon; 04 November 2018, 03:02 PM.

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  • jpg44
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    Originally posted by molecule-eye View Post

    Both of those are very low priority, especially because virtual desktops work, it's just the pager widget that doesn't. I'm more concerned about how difficult it is to get clipboard history functionality, to get scrolling to be as smooth as as on X with libinput, and to get the big browsers to run natively on wayland (which is why I'm currently using Falkon--decent, but no firefox).
    With all due respect, thats a lot of work, for what, your just duplicating functionality already available on Linux for ages. Why not do something we don't have. Like: Decent OCR support, accurate voice recognition, an open source natural language translator, WYSIWG web design tools, better WINE WIndows API support, Support fot the Presentation API for .NET in Mono.

    Whats the point in redoing the same features over and over again?

    What does wayland solve? Nothing. It does nothing we don't have with X or could not get by improving X.

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  • molecule-eye
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    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    Wow, the Wayland haters are out in force today
    I personally can't wait to get rid of X! Which I'll do once kwin + plasma will have agreed upon a protocol for the virtual desktop pager, and activities (though that's less important to me).
    Both of those are very low priority, especially because virtual desktops work, it's just the pager widget that doesn't. I'm more concerned about how difficult it is to get clipboard history functionality, to get scrolling to be as smooth as as on X with libinput, and to get the big browsers to run natively on wayland (which is why I'm currently using Falkon--decent, but no firefox).

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  • jpg44
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    Wayland might as well be called Microsoft Windows. Its everything we disliked about Windows, on Linux, It takes away the best feature, network transparency. If I wanted a OS where I could not choose which display an app should be displayed to and is this monolithic thing that takes away all configuration and choice., I would use Windows. GNOME 3 is such an obvious copy of Windows and actually , its worse, Windows has more configuration than GNOME 3 will give you. Gnome 3 is the worst UI I have ever seen, it really is atrocious. and it treats the user with contempt, you cant configure anything.

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