Mir Has Partial Support For The NVIDIA Proprietary Driver, X11 Support Remains WIP

[phoenk]

Speak for yourself, the "open source community" is not just the FSF extremists.

This argument isn't about software freedom though. It is a purely technical discussion. No one in this debate is against the proprietary driver because of its license, but because it doesn't conform to an otherwise well-adopted standard. As a result, developers now have to support two standards: the one agreed upon by most of the community, and the one nvidia is parroting more or less on its own. You don't see a headline about "compositor X now including support for AMD's open source drivers," because that is default through using a widely implemented interface.

[tildearrow]

I thought it's not a display server anymore, but a Wayland compositor now?

Mir, Weston, Mutter, GNOME Shell, KWin, Sway and the rest of Wayland compositors are display servers and Wayland compositors at the same time.

[Weasel]

This argument isn't about software freedom though. It is a purely technical discussion. No one in this debate is against the proprietary driver because of its license, but because it doesn't conform to an otherwise well-adopted standard. As a result, developers now have to support two standards: the one agreed upon by most of the community, and the one nvidia is parroting more or less on its own. You don't see a headline about "compositor X now including support for AMD's open source drivers," because that is default through using a widely implemented interface.

Depends how you look at "majority". Obviously the majority of users use Nvidia, for better or worse (I'm not advocating anything, just stating facts and statistics).

[andre30correia]

Yes that was covered hours ago @ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ox-Mir-Wayland

and most likely mate and cinnamon will use it to in future and ofc unity 8

[M@yeulC]

Depends how you look at "majority". Obviously the majority of users use Nvidia, for better or worse (I'm not advocating anything, just stating facts and statistics).

What statistics, though? I would expect Intel users to be the majority, by quite a margin

As far as I know, EGL Streams has quite a few shortcomings and would not be technically superior to GBM (which has a few, different, shortcomings as well). That's why both sides agreed to build a better solution after all. How is it going, by the way? I haven't heard of it in a long time.

[Weasel]

What statistics, though? I would expect Intel users to be the majority, by quite a margin

As far as I know, EGL Streams has quite a few shortcomings and would not be technically superior to GBM (which has a few, different, shortcomings as well). That's why both sides agreed to build a better solution after all. How is it going, by the way? I haven't heard of it in a long time.

First hit I found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8o7xfr/addin_board_gpu_market_shares_q12018_amd_349_to/

[M@yeulC]

First hit I found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...18_amd_349_to/

That's add-in boards, though, meaning discrete GPUs, which is ignoring a big part of the picture (nvidia has no iGPUs). And those are general stats, things could be different on Linux.

It's actually quite difficult to find some stats. The first thing I found is the table at the end of that article, which would put nvidia at 16%: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-amd-inte...share-q3-2016/

[Vistaus]

and most likely mate and cinnamon will use it to in future and ofc unity 8

MATE will most likely switch to Mir, but last time I heard talk of Cinnamon on Wayland, Clem was more interested in porting Cinnamon's WM directly to Wayland rather than use Mir.