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  • #11
    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

    http://events17.linuxfoundation.org/...ndChromium.pdf

    The reality is in development branches of Firefox, Gimp and Chromium there is functional Wayland support with a few bugs to sort out. So its more of a question when will wayland of those be production releases.

    Yes at the moment --no-x11 built into compositor is not an option. Some point in future it could down right be. Libreoffice short time after getting GTK3 support was able to-do wayland support.

    The question here how many of those items that use Electron would be ported if Electron does port.
    I think app that use Electron will have to be ported at some point, as Wayland is clearly going to replace X11 in the (near) future. So they can't keep depending on X11 when X11 is eventually going to be deprecated.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

      Firefox and Fedora have Wayland support, so please don't spread misinformation.
      Well, Firefox haven't released yet with official Wayland support.
      There is some code in Firefox for Wayland support, and its an ongoing effort, but its not ready yet.
      It is possible to build Firefox with Wayland support.
      There are Firefox binaries compiled with Wayland support available. From the Firefox nightly.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post

        Well, Firefox haven't released yet with official Wayland support.
        There is some code in Firefox for Wayland support, and its an ongoing effort, but its not ready yet.
        It is possible to build Firefox with Wayland support.
        There are Firefox binaries compiled with Wayland support available. From the Firefox nightly.
        Firefox nightly only needs to enable Wayland support now. This would allow us to start testing it on other distributions besides Fedora. The flatpak from the main Firefox Wayland developer is not getting updated at the moment. What is not ready on Firefox on Wayland are the corner cases like WebRTC, but I guess as Firefox nightly is the testing branch most of us could live without these special cases.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post

          Well, Firefox haven't released yet with official Wayland support.
          There is some code in Firefox for Wayland support, and its an ongoing effort, but its not ready yet.
          It is possible to build Firefox with Wayland support.
          There are Firefox binaries compiled with Wayland support available. From the Firefox nightly.
          Do you even read the things you write? 'Cause the point was NOT that Firefox has official Wayland support. You clearly stated "does not support Wayland yet". So that's what I responded to. Whether or not it's officially released for Wayland is a different matter.

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          • #15
            wayland in good shape? Works like garbage with a lot of bugs and bad performance x11 works much better

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            • #16
              Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
              wayland in good shape? Works like garbage with a lot of bugs and bad performance x11 works much better
              Wayland is a mixed bag of performance still. There are cases where wayland solutions out perform X11 ones. So things are getting better the bad performance of wayland compositors and applications is reducing. Of course wayland promise of higher performance does turn out to be the case when the bugs are not in the way.

              Debugging software and standards is not a fast process.

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