Igalia's Battle Getting Chromium Running Nicely On Wayland

[KellyClowers]

par for the course for any phoronix forum thread

Hey now, I've seen some that weren't... like, 2 or 3 at least! :-P

[nanonyme]

Calling Wayland "stable" has no substance as long as GPU support is lacking for one of the two main brands.

I wish this forum had an unlike. The reason nVidia has no Wayland support has zero to do with Wayland and everything to do with implementation details in various Wayland compositors. nVidia decided to target a non-existing implementation detail and force everyone to implement it through sheer marketshare push. Whether or not they were right, it's still not really about Wayland stability but whether certain implementation details are chosen to be de facto standards

[indepe]

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Whether or not they were right, it's still not really about Wayland stability but whether certain implementation details are chosen to be de facto standards

Yes it's not about stability per se. It is about supporting both brands, and as far as I can tell what nvidia wants is not unreasonable as long as one isn't too narrow-minded about it. That is what takes the wind out of Wayland's sail. Talking about stability is a substitute conversation.

[uid313]

Firefox is expected to have basic Wayland support in the upcoming version 59.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134

[schmidtbag]

Firefox is expected to have basic Wayland support in the upcoming version 59.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134

Makes me wonder if Firefox is one of the primary reasons Ubuntu hasn't officially switched to Wayland yet. Either way, seems like FF has been making great progress ever since the Quantum release.

[dkasak]

Calling Wayland "stable" has no substance as long as GPU support is lacking for one of the two main brands.

Wayland doesn't require a GPU, and if it did, there are plenty of cards with open-source drivers to choose from.

[indepe]

Wayland doesn't require a GPU, and if it did, there are plenty of cards with open-source drivers to choose from.

Wayland is for computers without GPU ?
Or you try to choose on behalf of the users, and it doesn’t work ?

[smitty3268]

Yes it's not about stability per se. It is about supporting both brands, and as far as I can tell what nvidia wants is not unreasonable as long as one isn't too narrow-minded about it. That is what takes the wind out of Wayland's sail. Talking about stability is a substitute conversation.

NVidia has said quite clearly that they already support Wayland just fine. So I'm not sure what you're talking about... KDE support? Or XWayland? XWayland is not the same thing as Wayland.

[indepe]

NVidia has said quite clearly that they already support Wayland just fine. So I'm not sure what you're talking about... KDE support? Or XWayland? XWayland is not the same thing as Wayland.

Very funny. I suppose it's classified information.

[dkasak]

Wayland is for computers without GPU ?
Or you try to choose on behalf of the users, and it doesn’t work ?

There's nothing in the protocol that requires a GPU. Enlightenment, for example, has a software compositor as well as a hardware one. At various points where I've broken my OpenGL setup on my CuBox ( armv7 SOC ), I've run Enlightenment/Wayland in software mode, and it actually works really well.