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  • No Vulkan 1.1 Today, But There Is A New Initiative That Could Help macOS See Vulkan

    Phoronix: No Vulkan 1.1 Today, But There Is A New Initiative That Could Help macOS See Vulkan

    While this morning the embargo lifted on the exciting OpenGL 4.6 update, those hoping SIGGRAPH 2017 would bring "Vulkan 1.1" or some big update on that front, that is not the case...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ity-Initiative

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    Since Apple apparently controls what drivers you can install on OS-X, I don't think there is a way to put Vulkan down their throat.

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    • #3
      Well I guess it's about what molten already tries: mapping as much functionality from vulkan to dx and metal. Only functionality that works everywhere will get included.

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      • #4
        including those that currently support only DirectX and Metal.
        OK, so one of them is Mac OS. What's the other one? XBox?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          OK, so one of them is Mac OS. What's the other one? XBox?
          Vulkan can theoretically work on XP if vendors were to provide vendors but this portability wouldn't be for that since XP doesn't have DX12. Really wouldn't make sense for trying to map Vulkan to ~DX9. It may be for trying to map for Xbox console support. It wasn't implied on the call I had last week but macOS seems main focus.
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
            Since Apple apparently controls what drivers you can install on OS-X, I don't think there is a way to put Vulkan down their throat.
            You could have an application built using this subset of Vulkan then use a middle layer that maps it to Metal, similarly to what MoltenVK does, but probably more efficiently since the subset would have been made for that exact purpose. Maybe that layer could be FOSS from Khronos.

            If the mapping is efficient enough (Croteam said Molten was not) it could push using Vulkan on Mac OS after all.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Michael View Post

              Vulkan can theoretically work on XP if vendors were to provide vendors but this portability wouldn't be for that since XP doesn't have DX12. Really wouldn't make sense for trying to map Vulkan to ~DX9. It may be for trying to map for Xbox console support. It wasn't implied on the call I had last week but macOS seems main focus.
              If vendors were to provide vendors? Haha

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                OK, so one of them is Mac OS. What's the other one? XBox?
                It doesn't matter. If Vulkan works on Windows, Linux, Android, PS4, Switch and iOS it will kill off DX12 and Microsoft will have to adapt.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Geopirate View Post

                  It doesn't matter. If Vulkan works on Windows, Linux, Android, PS4, Switch and iOS it will kill off DX12 and Microsoft will have to adapt.
                  If! But Vulkan doesn't run on all those platforms. Last I checked it doesn't run on PS4 nor on iOS.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sarmad View Post

                    If! But Vulkan doesn't run on all those platforms. Last I checked it doesn't run on PS4 nor on iOS.
                    I haven't heard anything recent, but you can boot linux and get Vulkan working that way. Of course it isn't on the PS4's native OS yet.

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