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  • jaxxed
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    Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
    Okay, thanks for the (depressing) answers. I guess, I'm just staying away from general humankind like I always have. :-/

    Anyhow, due to my broken internet, I can't watch the videos. Any news to Vulkan next?
    No worries man, lunarcloud is also in his bubble.

    I'm not a tween, but I'm also not really a gamer, and even I know how to deal with steam if I want to play games. Also, saying that installing steam feels riskier than using some of the web game tech is a bit laughable, especially if you are older than 30 years old. Yeah, webgl seems cool, yes webassembly sounds great, but neither are going to be more secure than steam for a long time. On the app side, everybody older than 7 knows that installing a bunch of freeware from their app-store is going to include a bunch of bloated and sometime dangerous crap - Hell even the mainstream commercial apps feel risky.

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by liam View Post
    Why are you depressed? I'm (pretty sure....) starshipeleven is joking about their frail gray matter.
    Well, It's not a secret that most of the world's population isn't exactly smart. Sure there are many that are specialists in some field and suck at IT in general, but there are large numbers of plain dumb people doing simple things (and getting increasingly unemployed as automation and de-localization eats away the "simple dumb worker" kind of jobs).

    PCs are too complex for such beings, they need a single-purpose box like consoles.
    Last edited by starshipeleven; 16 March 2017, 05:06 AM.

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  • liam
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    Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
    Okay, thanks for the (depressing) answers. I guess, I'm just staying away from general humankind like I always have. :-/

    Anyhow, due to my broken internet, I can't watch the videos. Any news to Vulkan next?
    Why are you depressed? I'm (pretty sure....) starshipeleven is joking about their frail gray matter.
    The web as a platform is only a good thing. That's how you get actual cross-platform experiences.
    Also, instead on thinking Candy Crush, think Infinity Blade or Paragon. Wasm in combination with a low level graphics api (even with just webgl 2) should make for a pretty compelling AAA games development target.
    If you're running Linux, and want to game, you should be psyched about this.

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  • ldo17
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    Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post
    I've heard so many people say things that allude to a weird belief that simply having something installed makes your PC slower.
    On Windows, that is very often true. Not just slower, but less reliable.

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  • anth
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    Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post
    The first video, the one I'm most interested, has a copyright claim and "is not available in your country" (the US).
    So annoying.
    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    It should be fixed now.
    Not in New Zealand: "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.. It is not available in your country."

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  • Shevchen
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    Okay, thanks for the (depressing) answers. I guess, I'm just staying away from general humankind like I always have. :-/

    Anyhow, due to my broken internet, I can't watch the videos. Any news to Vulkan next?

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  • Azpegath
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    If you guys haven't seen the round-table discussion on the "When Vulkan was One: Looking Back, Looking Ahead", make sure to catch it. One question even mentions Phoronix

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
    Are we already at this point?
    Yeah, large amounts of people know only how to operate a browser, or basic smartphone functions (watsapp/facebook/whatever).

    I think I get the picture... somehow. It must be super-easy, everything has to do everything by itself, must be some sort of mindreading and if you can't control it with a simple click on an x/y axis, its already too complicated. Is that (roughly) hitting the mark?
    Yeah, also 3D is usually too much for their feeble minds. 2D arcades are the most complex game for the masses.

    Have a look at exibhit 1 here, Candy Crush (one of the most famous dumb games) makes like 500k per day with a game that is roughly "connect four" https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-da...dy-crush-saga/



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  • lunarcloud
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    Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
    on steam, its also just "clicks" [...] Is that (roughly) hitting the mark?
    Right, but I'm not on Steam. My stuff isn't even ready for itch.io yet. And, you're assuming that normal people you might want to share stuff with actually have Steam installed.
    I find users are hesitant to install any new applications. People who aren't PC enthusiasts (of any variety) have become so fearful of installing things for fear of viruses. I've heard so many people say things that allude to a weird belief that simply having something installed makes your PC slower.
    But, I don't think even that is 100% the reason. Really, it's that installing your app takes time, and then they have to uninstall it afterwards if they don't want it. It's a lot of effort for something they're not sure if your app if worth distracting themselves with or not. There's a lot of games and a lot of other things to keep people busy. If a game isn't more compelling than things one already has installed, it's in it's favor to make itself convenient enough that curiosity wins out over doing something else.
    Not all users are bored and waiting for your game to come relieve that boredom. There's plenty of other stuff to do.

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  • Shevchen
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    Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post

    As a hobbyist game developer... it's way easier to convince people to visit a web link than it is to convince them to download, install, and launch an executable.
    Are we already at this point? I'm living inside the PC-Master-Race bubble, so I don't get to know much about how the plebs are behaving. :P
    I've heard from my prof, that the new first semester of students don't even know what a tree-diagram is, because they don't use computers anymore but only smartphones (or whatever leads to that)

    Its an engineering class with a lot of focus on signal processing. Now you tell me, clicking a link is the new thing instead of the "standard approach" (I mean, on steam, its also just "clicks")

    I think I get the picture... somehow. It must be super-easy, everything has to do everything by itself, must be some sort of mindreading and if you can't control it with a simple click on an x/y axis, its already too complicated. Is that (roughly) hitting the mark?

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