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  • #11
    Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post
    The first video, the one I'm most interested, has a copyright claim and "is not available in your country" (the US).
    So annoying.
    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    It should be fixed now.
    Not in New Zealand: "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.. It is not available in your country."

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    • #12
      Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post
      I've heard so many people say things that allude to a weird belief that simply having something installed makes your PC slower.
      On Windows, that is very often true. Not just slower, but less reliable.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
        Okay, thanks for the (depressing) answers. I guess, I'm just staying away from general humankind like I always have. :-/

        Anyhow, due to my broken internet, I can't watch the videos. Any news to Vulkan next?
        Why are you depressed? I'm (pretty sure....) starshipeleven is joking about their frail gray matter.
        The web as a platform is only a good thing. That's how you get actual cross-platform experiences.
        Also, instead on thinking Candy Crush, think Infinity Blade or Paragon. Wasm in combination with a low level graphics api (even with just webgl 2) should make for a pretty compelling AAA games development target.
        If you're running Linux, and want to game, you should be psyched about this.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by liam View Post
          Why are you depressed? I'm (pretty sure....) starshipeleven is joking about their frail gray matter.
          Well, It's not a secret that most of the world's population isn't exactly smart. Sure there are many that are specialists in some field and suck at IT in general, but there are large numbers of plain dumb people doing simple things (and getting increasingly unemployed as automation and de-localization eats away the "simple dumb worker" kind of jobs).

          PCs are too complex for such beings, they need a single-purpose box like consoles.
          Last edited by starshipeleven; 03-16-2017, 05:06 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Shevchen View Post
            Okay, thanks for the (depressing) answers. I guess, I'm just staying away from general humankind like I always have. :-/

            Anyhow, due to my broken internet, I can't watch the videos. Any news to Vulkan next?
            No worries man, lunarcloud is also in his bubble.

            I'm not a tween, but I'm also not really a gamer, and even I know how to deal with steam if I want to play games. Also, saying that installing steam feels riskier than using some of the web game tech is a bit laughable, especially if you are older than 30 years old. Yeah, webgl seems cool, yes webassembly sounds great, but neither are going to be more secure than steam for a long time. On the app side, everybody older than 7 knows that installing a bunch of freeware from their app-store is going to include a bunch of bloated and sometime dangerous crap - Hell even the mainstream commercial apps feel risky.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by jaxxed View Post
              On the app side, everybody older than 7 knows that installing a bunch of freeware from their app-store is going to include a bunch of bloated and sometime dangerous crap
              I beg to differ. I work in techsupport and there are large amounts of younger people that don't know how to use their PCs beyond browser and office. Sure the matters are worse for older generations but "young people know how to use technology" is a myth.

              Thankfully with smartphone/tablets OSes someone noticed and gave them a device they can operate decently, but PCs require waay too much know-how to be used well and safely by most people.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jaxxed View Post
                No worries man, lunarcloud is also in his bubble.

                ... even I know how to deal with steam if I want to play games. ...
                Great for you *slow clap*.
                When was the last time you used a website and freaked out about whether it was secure or not? And it wasn't banking / taxes? Javascript (and by extension, these other technologies) is pretty damn well sandboxed and secure.
                I didn't say I had issues installing things, either.

                I'm just saying:
                hey, try this out *link*, click, oh cool"
                is easier and nicer than:
                "hey, wait for this to download, pray I didn't mess up my installer code, fight with windows because some stupid reason, then hope it runs correctly, try it, is that is? for all this effort?, and maybe uninstall it".
                With my OSX friends it's even worse, because I have to get them to disable gatekeeper, because I don't own a Mac recent enough to sign my apps even if I had a developer key.
                And why isn't using the web as the universal platform it is compelling? If things like Webgl2 and WebAssembly start using more of the hardware so it's less "wasted"?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                  Well, It's not a secret that most of the world's population isn't exactly smart. Sure there are many that are specialists in some field and suck at IT in general, but there are large numbers of plain dumb people doing simple things (and getting increasingly unemployed as automation and de-localization eats away the "simple dumb worker" kind of jobs).

                  PCs are too complex for such beings, they need a single-purpose box like consoles.
                  By definition, that's true but I've come to believe that most people aren't stupid, or even anything less than surprisingly intelligent. If you are willing to talk to them about their passions/interests lots of people may surprise you (and yes, some can disappoint as well, but that seems to happen much less often)
                  The main issue seems to be curiosity, and not everyone is interested in *everything" (for the most part, I'm not terribly interested in sports). They're comfortable where they are and with what they are doing.
                  BTW, "automation" has started to leak into the knowledge fields. There've been a number (a much too large of a number, imho) of scarticles about this with far too many taking the lazy (incurious) route of "its probably going to happen, but not for X years (where X corresponds to the number of years separating the writer from retirement)".
                  👍 for single-purpose machines
                  All the 👍 for computing devices that are flexible, efficient and reliable

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by liam View Post
                    If you are willing to talk to them about their passions/interests lots of people may surprise you
                    Yeah did that, no it does not usually happen. I'm talking of intelligence, as in "ability to deal with unexpected situations", the fact that many people know well a specific field that on average is also completely useless in real life is not "intelligence".

                    The main issue seems to be curiosity, and not everyone is interested in *everything"
                    I'm not interested in many things, but I know them regardless because it's necessary for my survival, or to avoid having to spend money I don't have, to have things fixed for me and so on.

                    Or I acquire documentation to deal with issues myself on demand.

                    They're comfortable where they are and with what they are doing.
                    True for some lucky fellas, not true for the large majority of humanity. This has nothing to do with intelligence, btw.

                    BTW, "automation" has started to leak into the knowledge fields.
                    That's small talk at best, given how immature is the bullshit that passes for "modern AI technology" and the speed (or lack thereof) of its evolution in the last three decades, this is unlikely to happen within our lifetime or even our offspring's. Way too complex to replace human thought when your machines still can't handle even picture recognition or navigation in real life environments properly, and even less actual human interaction.

                    Also, when that happens, pretty much everything else will have been replaced by pretty damn smart robots anyway, so it's not going to matter much what happens to the 2-3% of people that still have a job by then. That's either going to be a post-scarcity society or the last step in the process where humanity finally dies off and the sapient AIs they made take their place.

                    I'm much more worried by what will happen in a much more near future that I'm far more likely to still be alive in, when collaborative robots (not even AIs, just smaller industrial bots with proximity sensors and some decent auto-learning procedures, these are the New Best Thing in automation) start to replace workers, and crappy specialist AI software like Cortana/GNow/Siri/whatever replace tons of people in offices or in public-facing jobs.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by lunarcloud View Post

                      Great for you *slow clap*.
                      When was the last time you used a website and freaked out about whether it was secure or not? And it wasn't banking / taxes? Javascript (and by extension, these other technologies) is pretty damn well sandboxed and secure.
                      I didn't say I had issues installing things, either.

                      I'm just saying:
                      hey, try this out *link*, click, oh cool"
                      is easier and nicer than:
                      "hey, wait for this to download, pray I didn't mess up my installer code, fight with windows because some stupid reason, then hope it runs correctly, try it, is that is? for all this effort?, and maybe uninstall it".
                      With my OSX friends it's even worse, because I have to get them to disable gatekeeper, because I don't own a Mac recent enough to sign my apps even if I had a developer key.
                      And why isn't using the web as the universal platform it is compelling? If things like Webgl2 and WebAssembly start using more of the hardware so it's less "wasted"?
                      "Try out this link" sounds way less safe than "it's on steam"

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