Wow! Microsoft DirectX Adopting SPIR-V Moving Forward

[qarium]

Playsation is purely it own beast not vulkan and not directx wither.
MillionToOne also not upto date on modded Minecraft.

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/vulkanmod-android-libs

Yes the instructions to use vulkanmod on android devices to use the vulkan output. Sometimes the opengl rendering on Android devices can be badly broken.
Vulkanmod does not work on switch because it only has Vulkan 1.0.
Yes Vulkanmod loaded into Java Minecraft you do have ray-tracing. So you might not care for it but for those modding the game they have that feature..

thats all true but explain this to people means children and mothers of children who are not even able to install a mod...

and i do not sound extra incompetent but not even i was able to install the game controller mod and i read LPIC1 LPIC2 books just for fun.

[oiaohm]

this is all just theory and not practical even with hours of efford the person i tried to support was not able to use the controller and the mods more or less do not work. also not practival because every new minecraft version need a new version of this mod as well.. so in the end you forever run after the mainline and its a never ending problem and also does not work.

there are different mod methods for this. Steam big picture method is neutral to all version.

because you can not even join gamer servers with modded minecraft.

This is in fact false.there is no client side anti cheat on minecraft java edition.

how exactly are these people happy if they can not even join a official server with that modded edition ?

Java edition mine-craft you can join official servers with mod client as long as the mods are client side because there is no client side anti-cheat.

Lots of people play daily on official severs of Minecraft with different client side mods. Java client there are many performance boost things that are kind of important if you want to be competitive and not losing because your client is under performance.

Of course if you client side mod is letting you see though walls and stuff like that there are server side anti-cheat stuff that will catch you.

[Espionage724]

Not sure exactly on the latest discussion, but I played Java Minecraft on VR a few years ago great with Vivecraft! Also played Bedrock with official VR. Both on RTX 3060 and 6600 XT.

I imagine Vivecraft has VR controllers implemented through some VR-specific method, but native Oculus Touch controllers worked fine through Vivecraft (needed SteamVR's runtime for Bedrock).

I don't remember the last time I tried Java Minecraft on Windows, but I'm expecting performance oddities with OpenGL on Intel nowadays (like FlightGear UHD/Arc). Bedrock a few months ago was fine. Generally speaking, I only entertain Java edition on Linux and non-Google-apps Android (it's easier to get Bedrock Windows/Gapps )

[oiaohm]

Not sure exactly on the latest discussion, but I played Java Minecraft on VR a few years ago great with Vivecraft! Also played Bedrock with official VR. Both on RTX 3060 and 6600 XT.

I imagine Vivecraft has VR controllers implemented through some VR-specific method, but native Oculus Touch controllers worked fine through Vivecraft (needed SteamVR's runtime for Bedrock).

I don't remember the last time I tried Java Minecraft on Windows, but I'm expecting performance oddities with OpenGL on Intel nowadays (like FlightGear UHD/Arc). Bedrock a few months ago was fine. Generally speaking, I only entertain Java edition on Linux and non-Google-apps Android (it's easier to get Bedrock Windows/Gapps )

No there is a stupid one. Bedrock on android is opengl es, Yes a Android phone with a suspect Opengl implementation(these do happen) The PojavLauncher is simpler to push Zink but then the mod to use Vulkan can be better.

Espionage724 basically there are reasons why people who want to play minecraft will be using the java edition even on android devices. Yes fun of bad graphics drivers.

[MillionToOne]

man your incompetence shines to the sky...

even if i agree you that RT does not matter other points do matter for example the missing gaming controller support in the java edititions and mods not working and you can not join official servers with modded minecraft version

And so what? It's a PC game. Ever heard of a mouse and a keyboard? And what official servers?

also the performance penalty between OpenGL and DX12 is big very big just as big the performance penalty is between OpenGL and Vulkan

And I'm not talking about performance. You can install mods to fix it.

you end up need more performant hardware just because a game use openGL instead of Vulkan.

Ofc if you want better performance OOTB. That's like every game. And DX12 or Vulkan doesn't help shit if it's just as poorly implemented as OpenGL in the game.

MillionToOne your secret message is clear you do not want that people use linux at all it just means people should be forced to use windows.

You're jumping to some crazy conclusions. And if you're not willing to sacrifice something to ditch Windows, you really don't give as shit about GNU/Linux in general.